Italians are easier?

bigpoppa

bigpoppa

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Keep hearing the italian bikes are much easier to work on, why is this so?
Perhaps someone with experience can elaborate

Would this apply to modern day bikes as well?


what about other europeans brands? (triumph, bmw)
 
No, you heard wrong, but Italian motorcycles do tend to handle better. If you want easy to work on you want a single cylinder something or an electric powered something ;)
 
the issue I have with MTCE of Jap bikes
is all the one time use push pin garbage
can't put the plastic back on without buying parts

Euro bikes have none of that junk on them
 
Probably because they're always broken down, so you get more experience faster.
 
btw: the vast majority of Triumph motorcycles are actually manufactured in Thailand, some from Brazil and some assembly happens in the U.K. Triumph motorcycles are about as European as chop sticks.
 
JavaFan said:
the issue I have with MTCE of Jap bikes
is all the one time use push pin garbage
can't put the plastic back on without buying parts

Euro bikes have none of that junk on them
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I've removed push pins and reused them many times. Push in the centre and pull out. Easy.
 
I've only had one Italian machine (the Tuono) and I don't think it's any easier to work on than any Japanese bike I've had. Packaging on this type of bike (or an RSV4, or an R1, or ZX10R etc) is always going to be tight; no matter the make there's a lot of **** packed into a tight area and it's not unusual to need to use a figurative stick of dynamite to get to seemingly simple things.

I will say that English-translation repair manuals for the Aprilia are, well...I appreciate the effort but they're pretty bad.
 
I've owned them all in your list Ducati, Guzzi, BMW, all three big Japanese and currently a Triumph '08 (built in England) . If you have a Duc twin or Guzzi V twin they are pretty simple (assuming you have some knowledge of how stuff works) , my BMW was an older air cooled, other than crazy Bing carbs it was pretty straight forward. All the Japanese had good/bad habits. The triumph just runs like a champ, 1050 triple is a nice engine that so far just wants oil changes and filters.
Unless you start buying V4 panigals, and road legal superbikes that need a laptop and software they all have the same level of need IMO.

The same guys that kick HD , kick at Italians bikes with nothing more than coffee shop gossip to fall back on.
 
bigpoppa said:
Keep hearing the italian bikes are much easier to work on, why is this so?
Perhaps someone with experience can elaborate
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My MV Agusta has a cassette transmission that makes it easy to pull the transmission gear cluster without even taking the engine out of the frame, that's pretty cool. No idea if any other bikes have that feature or not.
 
Trials said:
My MV Agusta has a cassette transmission that makes it easy to pull the transmission gear cluster without even taking the engine out of the frame, that's pretty cool. No idea if any other bikes have that feature or not.
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EX650 Kawasaki
 
crankcall said:
The same guys that kick HD , kick at Italians bikes with nothing more than coffee shop gossip to fall back on.
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A lot of this goes on. Way too many people acting like experts but their experience is what they read on a forum or some guy told them and he probably read it on a forum.

Back to the original question. My Tuono wasn’t a ton different to work on then a Japanese sport bike. I could see a Ducati with the steel trellis frame being much easier then something with an aluminum frame due to space. Same with KTM vs Japanese dirt bikes.
 
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