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Is there are law to protect car warranty for DIY oil changes?

justride

justride

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Can anyone cite a specific law that protects DIY oil changes from dealers not honouring their warranties?
Ideal Honda / Honda Canada will not validate Costco oil changes because it does NOT show the VIN on the service number
What's the best way to pursue this? thanks
 
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For an extended warranty I purchased, I had to agree to get all maintenance done at the dealer or an approved alternate. It was no problem getting a shop that specialized in that brand approved. Otherwise, it is on them to prove you did something wrong. You don't have the VIN on the receipts but do you have mileage and plate number? If mileage, dates, make and model line up, courts will not look fondly on Honda's position.

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The other thing that could bite you is insufficient detail. Some manufacturers require oil meeting a specific specification. If the receipt just says 5.4L of 0W30 but doesn't say "5.4 L of 0W30 Mobil 1 ESP", that could hose you as you can't prove that you used oil meeting the required spec.
 
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I know of no law, but I think the dealer/ manufacturer can specify this for warranty.

There are simply too many zippy lube shops run by minimum wage potheads that can put XXX in a YYY engine , regardless of what the paperwork says in the manual or the paperwork they generate, small turbo engines are pretty specific about what lubes that mess.

zippy lube #1, bills me for 6L oil in an engine that can only hold 5 . zippy lube #2 checks all tires for air , lowers all tires to 22lbs. I drive out turn the first corner... wtf?? back in, zippy lube #3 takes big plastic cover off engine, does not replace , they deny it was them ($400) to replace. Have headlamp bulb changed at thier insistance , crack housing when they drop it. hard to hide , you could hear the crack when it hit the floor.

when I was driving a zillion miles these guys made sense as it was in/out, given the choice there are very few quick shops I will ever use again.
 
Similar to @crankcall my buddy had a great experience at Oil Changers (or whatever it is now).

New F150 (fairly new as he puts 50k/year) goes in for an oil change. They pour in a few L and off he goes...car starts throwing codes like crazy.

Turns out when they poured in the new oil...they didn't actually drain the old oil. Few thousand dollars in cleanup of the engine and changing a few bits and pieces (can't recall as he uses polish words for them) and he's back to normal. They deny deny deny everything. Wasn't them, couldn't have been. He must've touched it after he left...
 
Jeez, just when I though their unethical practices were limited to upselling unnecessarily, I'm now seeing reports of them not actually changing the oil or filters you actually paid for. And they continue this practice even after getting caught on camera!

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Jeez, just when I though their unethical practices were limited to upselling unnecessarily, I'm now seeing reports of them not actually changing the oil or filters you actually paid for. And they continue this practice even after getting caught on camera!

www.nbclosangeles.com

“You Were Robbed”: NBC4 I-Team Exposes New “Tricks and Tactics” at Jiffy Lube Stores

Seven years after an NBC4 I-Team expose prompted Jiffy Lube to apologize for cheating customers and to promise “system wide changes,” the I-Team has uncovered what insiders say are new tricks and tactics to get your money, some in apparent violation of the law.
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Way back when garages had drain racks for the oil cans. The half ounces of oil dripped out of the cans, funneled into bottles and were sold to guys driving cars that burnt a lot of oil. I knew a guy that worked in one such shop and he said it was common for a worker to use the drip oil on a customer's car and set aside the good stuff for his own.

I recall reading about the direct fuel injection carbon build up and there is mention of a specification about residual build up of carbon. Some brands are more prone to building up carbon on the intake valves.

One mechanic I know is against the lighter oils being used today as he feels they don't give enough protection. All they do is add a small bit of extra mileage.

Re the legalities of DIY receipts for oil and filters could have an unscrupulous company deny a claim because the oil could have been used in a different vehicle. Do you need a notary to witness the oil change?

As mentioned elsewhere, cars are going to get very expensive going forward as the bi annual safeties become law.
 
nobbie48 said:
As mentioned elsewhere, cars are going to get very expensive going forward as the bi annual safeties become law.
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The what now?
 
TwistedKestrel said:
The what now?
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Someone brought it up in another thread. Apparently Onterrible is going to require bi-annual safeties for all vehicles beginning not that far in the future. That makes it really expensive to keep rarely used toys on the road.
 
GreyGhost said:
Someone brought it up in another thread. Apparently Onterrible is going to require bi-annual safeties for all vehicles beginning not that far in the future. That makes it really expensive to keep rarely used toys on the road.
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Which thread? This sounds like something I need to know about
 
Many US states have an annual inspection , I'm actually not against it. It wont be like the $100 exhaust gas nonsense and If it keeps some import running 2" spacers off the road , fine by me.

Before somebody starts , for every car guy that does the science and "builds" a car , there are 11 wankers that just buy crap off amazon and bolt it up.
 
crankcall said:
Many US states have an annual inspection , I'm actually not against it. It wont be like the $100 exhaust gas nonsense and If it keeps some import running 2" spacers off the road , fine by me.

Before somebody starts , for every car guy that does the science and "builds" a car , there are 11 wankers that just buy crap off amazon and bolt it up.
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The trick will be how to keep shops on the level. We've all been extorted on a safety before where the shop uses you as a make work project and requires parts that are clearly ok as is. Normally you don't want to pay another shop to try again (and you often don't have the time). A shop can be as crooked as they want and they will still have an endless stream of traffic needing certs.
 
It's easy, Europeans figured it out a long time ago. The car gets inspected at a gov't run inspection station and you get a paper detailing everything that needs to be fixed and a time period to fix it. You fix it and return with either a receipt from a shop, or they inspect your work and pass it.
 
Renboy said:
It's easy, Europeans figured it out a long time ago. The car gets inspected at a gov't run inspection station and you get a paper detailing everything that needs to be fixed and a time period to fix it. You fix it and return with either a receipt from a shop, or they inspect your work and pass it.
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Fat chance that'll happen here, even half of Serivce Ontario are franchisees. If this BS safety thing happens here, it's the last straw, I'll have to brave the cold and move to 'Berta.
 
If they're planning biennial inspections it sounds like someone is getting bribe money under the table. Mechanical failure is a relatively rare cause of accidents. I'm sure they'll use the panacea of a few wheel separations as justification, but I'm dead set against it. Heck, we just got rid of the stupid E-testing. I'm not interested in letting those crooks get my car into a garage under a corrupt government mandate.
 
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