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Is there a male loneliness epidemic?

My advice to guys who want to be more confident in approaching girls is learning to dance (like Latin, or Line, etc...).

You can go to a local community centre and go by yourself. People taking the class are at the same/similar level. I've found that there is WAY more girls than guys wanting to learn to dance, and as a male you will most likely have multiple dance partners. Which makes you a better dancer...which leads to more confidence...leading to becoming less socially awkward.

Just my two cents...
 
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Anything is better than being hooked to a screen or arguing with strangers online
 
My advice to guys who want to be more confident in approaching girls is learning to dance (like Latin, or Line, etc...).

You can go to a local community centre and go by yourself. People taking the class are at the same/similar level. I've found that there is WAY more girls than guys wanting to learn to dance, and as a male you will most likely have multiple dance partners. Which makes you a better dancer...which leads to more confidence...leading to becoming less socially awkward.

Just my two cents...
If you take up an activity just to meet a partner what motivation is there once you've achieved your partner goal?

You can meet people at bars if you like people that hang around bars. Similarly take up dancing or horsemanship. If you lose interest in the activity is there something else in common?

If you revert to being a couch potato and they still want to do things, clouds will soon form on the horizon.

If you go where there are people there are opportunities to meet them. You can do it at the supermarket. The key is to get them talking about themselves, for two reasons.

1) They're less likely to be interested in someone who opens a conversation with "My name is Fred and I like fixing motorcycles."

2) You want to know if they're weird.

The person you're talking to may not be one you're hitting on but they may know someone available and connect you.

If you were raised believing you were the centre of the universe and everyone wanted to know all about you, there could be a problem.
 
If you take up an activity just to meet a partner what motivation is there once you've achieved your partner goal?

You can meet people at bars if you like people that hang around bars. Similarly take up dancing or horsemanship. If you lose interest in the activity is there something else in common?

Fair argument, but you may actually like the new hobby you take up in many cases.

A lot of guys find out that they really enjoy horseback riding for example. It's down to earth in most cases (again, short of fancy millionaire facilities), the people are generally a lot of fun and easygoing, and contrary to popular belief, it's actually a lot of work riding a horse properly once you learn to post the trot, canter, etc, so it constitutes a workout in many cases as well, which is a bonus. I know for sure back when I was riding regularly I was far more fit than I am now lol.

Over my time in the horse world (sadly once my daughter went off to uni we've drifted away from it quite a lot) I know a TON of guys who were also introduced to it through their significant others and are still riding. Kind of the other way around vs what I'm suggesting, but you see the point.

Same goes for dancing, etc. I would never get involved in a hobby that I have zero interst in to begin with simply to meet someone, so obviously there needs to be some decisions early on, but there's a lot of options out there and getting into one that you're actually into (vs just playing along with to meet someone) would be key here.
 
Be careful learning to dance. You’ll be at a great wedding , meet some new guys that want to talk about motorbikes , fishing and southern vacations, and your new gal will mess it all up wanting to dance .


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My advice to guys who want to be more confident in approaching girls is learning to dance (like Latin, or Line, etc...).

You can go to a local community centre and go by yourself. People taking the class are at the same/similar level. I've found that there is WAY more girls than guys wanting to learn to dance, and as a male you will most likely have multiple dance partners. Which makes you a better dancer...which leads to more confidence...leading to becoming less socially awkward.

Just my two cents...
 
Watching the video, reading some of the responses in this thread and some in general... what many people (not all of course) seem to be missing....
  • Women are people and they are free to make their own choices, who, what, why, where... If they choose to be single or to not date someone that is THEIR choice. if they choose to only date billionaire, pretty boy, playboys, again their choice. If women having choice is too woke...
  • In Canada (and most of the western world) the population split is pretty close to 50/50 male/female. So unless some dudes are seriously hoarding in their harems the math is the math. Single guys means there are single women, which leads to my next point...
  • One large core problem, 50% of either sex is below average in attractiveness (and that comes in many forms, not just purely physical). Average or below average males that expect above average women, that is a form of entitlement that is not usually going to work. I know many guys in this category, no prize but they expect only skinny beauty queen 8/9/10s. Loose the hangups.
  • Get out, go out, go to places women are (clubs, church, dog parks, spinning class, yoga, whatever, etc.), loose the physical expectations of entitlement and meet real women. If loneliness is a problem, it takes effort to change, including expectations.
  • The "men" in this context being told to get some balls, or man-up etc. are getting all weepy because people don't understand them... woke is good for them but not for others??? back to the first point and reread.... life is about choices.
  • Porn is the reality, neither is some meta universe.
Sure dating has changed, and it is constantly changing, always has, always will. But again, women are people, and they are free to make their own choices. Adjust and move forward or just stay in mom's basement complaining.
 
Watching the video, reading some of the responses in this thread and some in general... what many people (not all of course) seem to be missing....
  • Women are people and they are free to make their own choices, who, what, why, where... If they choose to be single or to not date someone that is THEIR choice. if they choose to only date billionaire, pretty boy, playboys, again their choice. If women having choice is too woke...
  • In Canada (and most of the western world) the population split is pretty close to 50/50 male/female. So unless some dudes are seriously hoarding in their harems the math is the math. Single guys means there are single women, which leads to my next point...
  • One large core problem, 50% of either sex is below average in attractiveness (and that comes in many forms, not just purely physical). Average or below average males that expect above average women, that is a form of entitlement that is not usually going to work. I know many guys in this category, no prize but they expect only skinny beauty queen 8/9/10s. Loose the hangups.
  • Get out, go out, go to places women are (clubs, church, dog parks, spinning class, yoga, whatever, etc.), loose the physical expectations of entitlement and meet real women. If loneliness is a problem, it takes effort to change, including expectations.
  • The "men" in this context being told to get some balls, or man-up etc. are getting all weepy because people don't understand them... woke is good for them but not for others??? back to the first point and reread.... life is about choices.
  • Porn is the reality, neither is some meta universe.
Sure dating has changed, and it is constantly changing, always has, always will. But again, women are people, and they are free to make their own choices. Adjust and move forward or just stay in mom's basement complaining.
Incels??
 
 

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