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Is there a male loneliness epidemic?

or if you act like a jerk, women can make that decision for you. Therefore involuntary.

People need attitude vaccines. There's nothing wrong with opening a door for someone. Just don't expect a knighthood for it.

Agreed, but nobody suggested you should be rewarded for common courtesy.


Issues I find.

We live in the Disney generation. Many women expect a prince on a white horse is going to fulfill all their childhood dreams. They all chase that top 1%... then you get Hypergamy.
4th wave feminism has hurt women more than its helped.

Not every woman is a 10. Neither are men. I understand loving yourself, but women built like Lizzo think they deserve $6 figure men... coupled with the younger generation of men not understanding how to talk to women...

Jeez, they call it Rizz these days. Its a freakin' superpower to have "game", just being able to carry on a conversation with the opposite sex. No wonder young men watch too much porn, and retreat to their parents basement.

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Agreed, but nobody suggested you should be rewarded for common courtesy.


Issues I find.

We live in the Disney generation. Many women expect a prince on a white horse is going to fulfill all their childhood dreams. They all chase that top 1%... then you get Hypergamy.
4th wave feminism has hurt women more than its helped.

Not every woman is a 10. Neither are men. I understand loving yourself, but women built like Lizzo think they deserve $6 figure men... coupled with the younger generation of men not understanding how to talk to women...

Jeez, they call it Rizz these days. Its a freakin' superpower to have "game", just being able to carry on a conversation with the opposite sex. No wonder young men watch too much porn, and retreat to their parents basement.

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Disney screwed up more lives than one can imagine. Lemmings don't jump off cliffs in mass etc.
 
To the guys that have trouble finding a date: Stop acting like jerk. A lot of women today don't consider themselves spinsters at 23 YO. They would rather do without than be a doormat or replacement mommy.

Sad reality is that a lot of women seek out the jerks and have zero interest in the "nice guys". The jerks are the ones who always have drama surrounding them and this is exciting to a lot of shallow vapid females who only want to live in the moment without a care or thought about tomorrow.

Not saying that's all women, by any stretch, but there's a segment out there who reward that behaviour, so why would some change when it's working for them.

The Incel thing is a completely different situation in many regards. When you look back at some who classify themselves in this category (and in some cases have since become angry assh*les as a result), it's not surprising to see a lot of them used to be the quiet, reserved kid at school who just never even got a passing glance from any of the ladies because it wasn't what they were looking for. Then they graduate and remain that quiet reserved young adult who perhaps becomes socially awkward now as a result, and it goes downhill from there.
 
or if you act like a jerk, women can make that decision for you. Therefore involuntary.

People need attitude vaccines. There's nothing wrong with opening a door for someone. Just don't expect a knighthood for it.
Truth is being kind to others is its own reward.
Seeing the shocked reaction from some folks when they are pleasantly surprised my your act of kindness is a nice boost to your day FWIW too.
 
Agreed, but nobody suggested you should be rewarded for common courtesy.


Issues I find.

We live in the Disney generation. Many women expect a prince on a white horse is going to fulfill all their childhood dreams. They all chase that top 1%... then you get Hypergamy.
4th wave feminism has hurt women more than its helped.

Not every woman is a 10. Neither are men. I understand loving yourself, but women built like Lizzo think they deserve $6 figure men... coupled with the younger generation of men not understanding how to talk to women...

Jeez, they call it Rizz these days. Its a freakin' superpower to have "game", just being able to carry on a conversation with the opposite sex. No wonder young men watch too much porn, and retreat to their parents basement.

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%100. I heard a quote the other day something like %90 of women want to date %10 of men...basically if you're a male and not at least a 7 or 8 out of 10 on the looks scale these days it's very difficult to find a date. Tons of podcasts, youtube content on this topic. Men interview women asking them what they want in a man, the women lists 10 things. Then the interviewer asks, "what can you offer a/the man?" and they go silent.
 
If you're a lonely male, trade your Iphone for a flip phone, and get rid of the computers, VR games, and video consoles at your house.

Go to places where people go - community centers, bars - those places make it hard not to meet people.
 
%100. I heard a quote the other day something like %90 of women want to date %10 of men...basically if you're a male and not at least a 7 or 8 out of 10 on the looks scale these days it's very difficult to find a date. Tons of podcasts, youtube content on this topic. Men interview women asking them what they want in a man, the women lists 10 things. Then the interviewer asks, "what can you offer a/the man?" and they go silent.
"Well, I'm offering myself". They're no prize. Sexually promiscuous, used up, with an inability to pair bond. Far more likely to divorce a future husband because of their actions on the past.

I'm glad I got a good one early on. Been together over 20 years. Married the last 8.

I couldn't imagine dating today...

As they say, dating in your 30s/40s is like going to the dump and looking for the least broken thing.



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Women are free to make their own decisions regarding dating and their sexuality, but that still has consequences... that's one thing many of them don't seem to understand.

I recall some quote from a character that Jack Nicholson played.

It was an Author. Edit: "As Good As It Gets"

"How do you write women so well?"

" I think of a man, then I take away reason, and accountability".

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Over 90% of my friends are on round two of relationships/ marriage . And I think they are all better for it , they have their own money , careers , and are now their own people , they are ready for a partner and they know what they sure as F don’t want or need in round 2 .
Always the serial retards around that can’t help themselves , they NEED to date crazy , so there is that . I hang out with a couple gals/guys like that , but they aren’t in my tighter circle , it’s just watching for sport .
Personally mines a keeper , she has an indexed pension, which is not the reason I love her, but it really helps .


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%100. I heard a quote the other day something like %90 of women want to date %10 of men...basically if you're a male and not at least a 7 or 8 out of 10 on the looks scale these days it's very difficult to find a date. Tons of podcasts, youtube content on this topic. Men interview women asking them what they want in a man, the women lists 10 things. Then the interviewer asks, "what can you offer a/the man?" and they go silent.
The ones that figure they're exclusive are usually looking for a guy with an income over $XXX,XXX. Only about 3% of the males out there qualify.

The other part is that make up makes up for a lot of plain or ugly. Google pictures of actresses without makeup and they are very normal.

A very wise woman I knew made a comment to a young guy on the hunt. "If you want a ten you have to be a ten." Too many of all genders batting out of their league.
 
If you're a lonely male, trade your Iphone for a flip phone, and get rid of the computers, VR games, and video consoles at your house.

Go to places where people go - community centers, bars - those places make it hard not to meet people.

Or if you're a lonely guy, go take up horseback riding. Like, actual lessons, learning to actually ride, not just "along for the walk" trail riding.

It's a 99% female dominated sport and you'll make lots of friends of the opposite gender lol, and *most* are down to earth unless you're going to some multi-millionaire type facility full of supercars in the parking lot. Find a middle ground facility and sign up for the adult lessons so you don't get stuck with a bunch of teens and the such however, and the single ladies will be all over you like white on rice.
 
Or if you're a lonely guy, go take up horseback riding. Like, actual lessons, learning to actually ride, not just "along for the walk" trail riding.

It's a 99% female dominated sport and you'll make lots of friends of the opposite gender lol, and *most* are down to earth unless you're going to some multi-millionaire type facility full of supercars in the parking lot. Find a middle ground facility and sign up for the adult lessons so you don't get stuck with a bunch of teens and the such however, and the single ladies will be all over you like white on rice.
Also, can take a part time job cleaning or doing something at a hospital. From what I've seen %90 of nurses and the like are female. :LOL:
 
Loneliness is perpetually posting about politics in the basements of motorcycle forums.
Go do something outside. Anything.
i feel attacked...
 
As they say, dating in your 30s/40s is like going to the dump and looking for the least broken thing.
I strongly disagree...late 30s and 40s are often the time when people are mature enough to want to be gone from their " away from home " first family structure. In some cases kids are grown or they've grown apart from partner.
If anything the extra maturity is a real bonus.
I've met two of three long term partners online.
First divorce was cuz school sweetheart discovered she was gay in her 30s...( explained few things )

Second divorce I knew I was taking a chance on immaturity ...too much schooling...too little real world living jumping straight into kids with not even a gap year - showed up...unpleasantly.

Third partner a world away and so far after 15 years working out okay despite half of that being away from each other months at a time ( covid didn't help).

Looks fade ....personality and valuable personal traits most often grow stronger with time.

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Been a bit of a challenge moving to Aus as lost the connected group the business provided for 37 years plus long time friends and clients.
Do have lonely points here at times but getting out and riding helps a lot ( I am a loner by nature ) plus I have acquired a family/friends network here which I am attached to tho through my partner.
One close riding partner retired with illness, another from injury and since I'm not riding off pavement anymore the third guy - while we keep in touch - there is not so much common ground.

We go the Bowls Club for social every thursday for food and chat and the occasional other venue for trivia.
That helps a lot.

I thought about joining the bowls activity and also the duplicate bridge club purely to expand personal social contacts. For different reasons I've decided on neither at this point.

I keep active on line with a few forums but I'm quite happy with book, audio book, or bingeing media on my own.
Partner is also "self contained" but I know she values our relationship especially for travelling.

I'm a cup half full person so that helps contain any down periods as does pseudoephredine. I'm a sales guy so eternal optimist and socialize easily but have to be pushed a bit to seek it out.
Have a fairly varied life to share tales of travel and experiences and have always gotten along in social occasions with regular spats online to make things interesting.

Loneliness is an issue for me and I think less so for women until they have to age alone and that for either sex is a real problem.
No grandkids and none to be ....I know that's a big anti-loneliness factor for many.

Good luck ...there are really neat people out there online to date or make friends with and local social venues are terrific ...volunteers etc.
 
I strongly disagree...late 30s and 40s are often the time when people are mature enough to want to be gone from their " away from home " first family structure. In some cases kids are grown or they've grown apart from partner.
I think many people in their 30s-40s dating in today's world would have a bone to pick with you.

Current single friends of both sexes report it's a complete dumpster fire.

All that said, my wife and I met online, 10 years together this spring. It's certainly possible but you have to have realistic expectations about who you`re going to actually fit with and decide what kind of life down the road is actually important to you.
 
All that said, my wife and I met online, 10 years together this spring

Around 26 years ago for my wife and I, also met online....back when internet dating wasn't even really a thing, because the internet was just becoming a thing.
 
Around 26 years ago for my wife and I, also met online....back when internet dating wasn't even really a thing, because the internet was just becoming a thing.
Certainly not as mainstream as it is now with paid websites, but socially, the opportunity to meet people through mIRC, MSN Messenger, etc was certainly possible.
 
Dumpster fire??
Depends on the site ...I got tired of Plenty of Fish rather quick but the sadly defunct Science Connection where I met my partner a world away had some stunning profiles and bios for science and technology connections around the world.

My objection was characterizing people in 30s and 40s like this
As they say, dating in your 30s/40s is like going to the dump and looking for the least broken thing.
There's certainly far more choices in sites today than the Toronto Star classifieds where I connected with my second partner. By letter !!!!!!! :eek:
 

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