Insanity in Australia

CruisnGrrl

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Looks like Australia is really trying to make criminals out of everybody that rides or knows someone that rides

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...er-freed-on-bail/story-fnihsrf2-1226814188558

Librarian and accused bikie Sally Louise Kuether freed on bail


A LIBRARIAN and mum-of-three charged under Queensland's anti-bikie laws has been granted bail.
Sally Louise Kuether, 40, faces a mandatory six-months in jail if convicted over a visit to a Dayboro pub with partner Phillip "Crow" Frederick Palmer, 57, a patched member of the Life and Death motorcycle club and associate Ronald Anton Germain, 50, in December.
MAGISTRATE'S WARNING OVER BIKIE LAWS
The trio were arrested on January 24 charged with knowingly participating in a criminal gang in public and for remaining in a licensed premises while wearing a prohibited item.
Kuether had worn a leather patch with the words "Life and Death" emblazoned on it and reading: "Property of Crow" during the meeting at the Dayboro Hotel at 10.50am on December 19.

Germain and Kuether were both successful in their bid for bail release before Brisbane Magistrate Noel Nunan on Thursday.

Ms Kuether was escorted from the Brisbane Magistrates Court just before 5.30pm.
She hugged and thanked the father of her children, Rolf Kuether, who had waited patiently for her outside following the bail hearing.
``I'm glad to see my kids, I'm so excited, I've never been away from my kids and I've got time now to work on this case because it's just not acceptable,'' she said.
She said she was well looked after during her stay behind bars at the Pine Rivers Watch House.
``I can't see what I've done wrong, all I did was have a beer with my partner and my mate,'' she said.

``How is that wrong?
``I've never committed any crime in my life ever before, I'm an upstanding citizen, what can I say?''
Palmer's bid for bail was delayed until next week.
Court 20 in the Brisbane Magistrates Court was packed with supporters for the hearing of both bail applications, with the results eliciting gasps and claps from the public gallery.
Lawyer Mark Howden, for Kuether, said his client was a mother of three children - Clayton, Angus and Stella - who had worked as a library assistant for Brisbane City Council at the Carina and Stones Corner libraries.
He said she was the recipient of a Lord Mayor's Award for excellence beyond the call of duty relating to her volunteer work during Brisbane's floods of 2011.


The court was told Kuether helped to load volunteers onto buses to clean houses and properties once the waters subsided.
She met Palmer in February, 2013 and claimed that although she knew he was a member of a motorcycle gang, she never sought to be one, never attended a meeting and could not have been a member because women were not allowed.
Mr Nunan rejected the submissions of Crown prosecutor Brendan Campbell, who opposed bail on the basis Kuether was at risk of committing further offences and a danger to the public.
"She's in a show cause situation but there's no risk she is likely to commit further offences or endanger anyone," Mr Nunan said.
Lawyer James Wallace, for Germain, argued his client had no criminal history except for a low-range drink driving charge in 1986.
He said Germain had served in the Army for 22 years and in Queensland Corrective Services as a prison officer for 15 years before retiring recently on medical grounds.
He said Germain was a father figure for his partner's two boys who paid a mortgage on his property.
The court heard Germain and Kuether had not realised they would be breaking the law when they met at the pub because it was their understanding a criminal organisation was defined by three members.
Under the Newman Government's anti-bikie laws, the definition of a participant in a criminal gang includes anyone who by their words, conduct or in any other way associates with the organisation.
The laws further stipulate anyone alleged to be a participant in a crime gang must "show cause" when applying for bail release.
Both will reappear in the Pine Rivers Magistrates Court in February.
Ms Kuether's former partner, an emotional Rolf Kuether, said justice had been "well served".
"We're very happy with the outcome and I'm pleased I can get home to my traumatised children," he said.
He said the former couple's three children, aged 17, 13 and 11, were coping as well as they could in the circumstances.
He fired a parting shot at the Newman Government's laws and the bikies who sparked the crack-down.
"Campbell Newman would be better off serving the people of Queensland by pursuing the real criminals in this state, the former government and the people down on the Gold Coast who started this whole sorry, unholy mess," Mr Kuether said.
"We'll live to fight another day. I just want to go home to my kids, our kids. Our law-abiding children."
Sisters Inside CEO Debbie Kilroy said Ms Kuether still had a long journey ahead of her.
"Here we have a woman who has been employed for 21 years, never been in trouble with the law and has been caught up in these draconian laws," she said.
"Now we're seeing an innocent woman being held in the watch house for more than a week and there's a risk of her serving six months mandatory imprisonment in solitary confinement."


 
While I am unhappy with what Australia is doing, I'll just point out that Dr Knowles' partner is a patched member of a "criminal gang".

So putting it another way, if you have 4 criminal friends, you're the 5th.
 
Wives/partners of bike gangs are well aware of what goes on and are aware of the rules regarding members wearing patches and people being seen with them. My money is on this gang putting on a show and trying to change the laws that were put in place intentionally. "Look an innocent lady with kids is going to go to jail because of this silly law..."

There is no law stopping people hanging out... wearing their gang "colours" while hanging out IS against the law.
 
Oh yea, I am sure she picked up the vest at the trift shop. Should have known her place. Starbucks on a moped is suits a librarian.

Still, stupid law.


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Oh yea, I am sure she picked up the vest at the trift shop. Should have known her place. Starbucks on a moped is suits a librarian.

Still, stupid law.


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Actually, its a pretty smart law imo.

Before the law:
3 hells angels are walking through the mall... 3 finks walking towards them... brawl ensues, random person may get shot.

After the law:
3 hells angels are walking through the mall... 3 finks walking towards them... unless they personally know each other or can identify each other they walk past and continue on their way.

There is method to the madness. Also criminal gangs can go F#%$ themselves and should have no place in modern society.
 
Actually, its a pretty smart law imo.

Before the law:
3 hells angels are walking through the mall... 3 finks walking towards them... brawl ensues, random person may get shot.

After the law:
3 hells angels are walking through the mall... 3 finks walking towards them... unless they personally know each other or can identify each other they walk past and continue on their way.

There is method to the madness. Also criminal gangs can go F#%$ themselves and should have no place in modern society.

I think you've been playing too much grand theft auto on your xbox :lol:
More black people shoot eachother everyday than five years worth of biker brawls.
Should we start rounding them up too? How about muslim terrorists?
"Also criminal gangs can go F#%$ themselves and should have no place in modern society"
I feel the same way about criminal immigrants! Which we seem to have alot of.

So let's start with the biggest gangs in the world, the Police clubs.
Blue Knights MC, Defenders MC, Red Knights MC, Iron Pigs MC, Steelhorse Posse MC, Iron Warriors MC, Shamrocks MC, Blue Liners TMCC, Blue Steel MC, Brothers In Blue MC, http://www.blueknightsottawa.com/
All these guys should be tossed in jail> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se8Zou7pSfs#t=160

And this bunch of goofs, Ontario chapter.
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Since they fit ALL the same criteria the police consider a "gang", and since many members of law enforcement have been charged with serious crimes recently, they should be subject to the same harassment and discrimination.
All their assets should be seized under the proceeds of crime act and given the same jail sentence, no bail, 23hr a day lock down until you prove your innocence.

There's so many sheeple with tunnel vision these days, haven't done anything but live in their safe little bubble.
More importantly, like most posts in this thread, people have absolutely no knowledge of any motorcycle clubs doings or structure other than what they are falsely fed by the media, and law enforcement, set on fear mongering the public so they can justify their wasted budget each year.
Right now someone is getting robbed, beaten or killed somewhere, and it isn't bikers.

When you wake up one day in a police state and wonder where all your freedoms have gone, you'll be begging to join a motorcycle club. When a totalitarian regime is controlling your life, you will understand why you should have supported the people that don't bend over for the government.
 
The Queensland police detained a bloke wearing a "Sons of Anarchy" shirt....

I think that says it all.
 
Come on now Agave, it's not like MC clubs are defenders of our freedoms. They don't give a **** about anyone but themselves, they harass and muscle working people, and sometimes hurt innocent bystanders. However they are far from being the worse out there.


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"six months mandatory imprisonment in solitary confinement"

WTF ... why would you impose solitary confinement as a mandatory sentence
 
I think you've been playing too much grand theft auto on your xbox :lol:
More black people shoot eachother everyday than five years worth of biker brawls.
Should we start rounding them up too? How about muslim terrorists?
"Also criminal gangs can go F#%$ themselves and should have no place in modern society"
I feel the same way about criminal immigrants! Which we seem to have alot of.

So let's start with the biggest gangs in the world, the Police clubs.
Blue Knights MC, Defenders MC, Red Knights MC, Iron Pigs MC, Steelhorse Posse MC, Iron Warriors MC, Shamrocks MC, Blue Liners TMCC, Blue Steel MC, Brothers In Blue MC, http://www.blueknightsottawa.com/
All these guys should be tossed in jail> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se8Zou7pSfs#t=160

And this bunch of goofs, Ontario chapter.
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Rocker_Intl_Vice_President-176x249.jpg


Since they fit ALL the same criteria the police consider a "gang", and since many members of law enforcement have been charged with serious crimes recently, they should be subject to the same harassment and discrimination.
All their assets should be seized under the proceeds of crime act and given the same jail sentence, no bail, 23hr a day lock down until you prove your innocence.

There's so many sheeple with tunnel vision these days, haven't done anything but live in their safe little bubble.
More importantly, like most posts in this thread, people have absolutely no knowledge of any motorcycle clubs doings or structure other than what they are falsely fed by the media, and law enforcement, set on fear mongering the public so they can justify their wasted budget each year.
Right now someone is getting robbed, beaten or killed somewhere, and it isn't bikers.

When you wake up one day in a police state and wonder where all your freedoms have gone, you'll be begging to join a motorcycle club. When a totalitarian regime is controlling your life, you will understand why you should have supported the people that don't bend over for the government.

Are all those groups on a list of criminal gangs that have been outlawed? ... No? Didnt think so...

Have those groups been involved in crazy brawls in "public" places over the last decade leading to deaths and lots of injuries? No? Didnt think so...

Your point is completely moot and you dont seem to understand the laws and what constitutes a "criminal" gang. Personally I have had 5 friends that joined criminal bike gangs, mainly "The Finks" and "Black Uhlans" 1 is now a sgt at arms, and I know how it all works and what goes on. When I was in the military I met and hung out/partied with the Victorian president of the Rebels MC. There are lots of bike groups in Australia that "ARE" allowed to wear patches and do just fine ie" Ulyssys Club, Vietnam Vetrans MC, etc etc etc.

What do black people and immigrants committing crimes have to do with any of this?

"six months mandatory imprisonment in solitary confinement"

WTF ... why would you impose solitary confinement as a mandatory sentence

The solitary confinement is to curb the violence in the prison system between rival bike gangs.
 
I think you've been playing too much grand theft auto on your xbox :lol:
More black people shoot eachother everyday than five years worth of biker brawls.
Should we start rounding them up too? How about muslim terrorists?
"Also criminal gangs can go F#%$ themselves and should have no place in modern society"
I feel the same way about criminal immigrants! Which we seem to have alot of.

Why is it a race thing? Lots of dumbass white people and brown people out there too. Maybe making it a race thing is adding to the problem.


Criminal gangs can go **** themselves. I feel the same way about criminal anyone. From here or not they should all get sent to some island they can't get away from and left to fend for themselves. We house too many idiots on our dime here.

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From here or not they should all get sent to some island they can't get away from and left to fend for themselves.

Like Australia?
 
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