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How many times(revolutions) can you hand crank an engine with no oil(residual oil).

junk301

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I've had to replace my timing rotor and I need to turn the rotor a few times to get to the pickup. Is there an issue if I turn it fully like 5 times over time?
 
Ok reason is that it feels like it's getting harder to turn. Mind you this is after I installed a flywheel, could this be because there is absolutely no oil in these parts?
 
Okay will do. However is the reason that it was harder to turn mean anything?
 
From this end of the internet, I can't tell why your engine is hard to turn. I can't tell if you are feeling a compression stroke from well-sealed piston rings (good), or feeling resistance from the valve springs as the rotation of the engine is pushing the valves open against the springs (normal), or if you are feeling an incorrectly assembled internal part or an incorrectly timed camshaft pushing a valve against a piston (bad), or if you are feeling a foreign object dropped into the engine jamming itself into the timing chain (bad).

A certain amount of judgment and feel is necessary here. I can't see and feel what you are doing.
 
Okay will do. However is the reason that it was harder to turn mean anything?

Not much if you're on the compression stroke. You should notice an inconsistent feel as you turn it over. If it's getting harder, and stays hard, that's a problem.
 
From this end of the internet, I can't tell why your engine is hard to turn. I can't tell if you are feeling a compression stroke from well-sealed piston rings (good), or feeling resistance from the valve springs as the rotation of the engine is pushing the valves open against the springs (normal), or if you are feeling an incorrectly assembled internal part or an incorrectly timed camshaft pushing a valve against a piston (bad), or if you are feeling a foreign object dropped into the engine jamming itself into the timing chain (bad).

A certain amount of judgment and feel is necessary here. I can't see and feel what you are doing.

bike is away from me now so I will try to diagnose. But as soon as I impact wrenched on the flywheel it was harder to turn. In addition is sounded like i could hear the gears moving. I will try again without the sparkplugs. Thank you


Not much if you're on the compression stroke. You should notice an inconsistent feel as you turn it over. If it's getting harder, and stays hard, that's a problem.

so far its been staying hard. however i haven't turned it more than a revolution since due to worry.
 
hand cranking you can do it without any worries....when the engine is running the oil pump supplies oil pressure to the bearings and for the most part the rotating engine parts ride on a thin coating of oil. You cant generate enough force by hand cranking to necessitate the oil film needing to be there...

with that being said, i would never crank an engine with an impact driver....impact drivers shock the bolt, you're probably over tightening it by trying to rotate the engine.
 
How many times(revolutions) can you hand crank an engine with no oil(residual o

Geezus don't use an impact wrench to rotate an engine!!! Take the plugs out as mentioned and by hand only. An impact wrench has a hammer in it and will snap the bolt in the crank.
 
Re: How many times(revolutions) can you hand crank an engine with no oil(residual o

nonono. i used an impact wrench on the flywheel(to install it). However after I did that it was harder to hand crank the engine. Bike is away from me and I have yet to try with the sparkplugs out.
 
Re: How many times(revolutions) can you hand crank an engine with no oil(residual o

nonono. i used an impact wrench on the flywheel(to install it). However after I did that it was harder to hand crank the engine. Bike is away from me and I have yet to try with the sparkplugs out.

Impact wrenches are for disassembly, torque wrenches are for reassembly. :/ Does the flywheel have a keyed shaft? Any chance you rammed the key into the face of the block?
 
Re: How many times(revolutions) can you hand crank an engine with no oil(residual o

it turns much easier now without the plugs..Seems fixed to me. Thanks for all the responses.
 

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