I'm not a big fan of him, but you cannot deny that he and that Honda have been working extremely well together.
Will I ever be able to do this?
Will I ever be able to do this?
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How long would it take for me to ride like Stoner?
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I could get a picture of you, like that one. You would need a new bike and leathers afterwards, but you'd have the picture.
Some things you can learn. Others you have to be born with, and then learn.
Some things you can learn. Others you have to be born with, and then learn.
LOL, agreed. I'm not being serious with my question, I know these guys are on a different level altogether. But it sure is fun to try to get there.
The sheer technology, physics, engineering and talent that is displayed in that picture is absolutely awe-inspiring.
Red_Liner740
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God i dont like Stoner but the man can ride....the fact that hes on a class leading Honda does help. As long as Lorenzo doesnt win....that man annoys me for some reason.
sundancekid
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I'm not a big fan of him, but you cannot deny that he and that Honda have been working extremely well together.
Will I ever be able to do this?
That picture blows my mind. Riding skill beyond description and some talented photography too. Of course having as someone else stated a "class leading bike" doesn't hurt but you need to have the perfect mesh of rider and machine.
Class leading bike as all the electronics that are accompanied in MotoGP now? Those guys can just twist the throttle and all the electronics will take over. Not impressed with that
Red_Liner740
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Trust me, watching a MotoGP race and what these guys do to wring every last split second out of those bikes, you gotta be an Alien. electronics allowed them to push the limits safely....but everything happens so damn quick because those limits have been pushed so far you gotta be incredible.
Now, everyone says that the 500cc MotoGP bikes of mid 90's were brutal slayers compared to the new MotoGP bikes and how todays crop of MotoGP riders wouldnt be able to contain those beasts...and i partially agree...Rossi has ridden MotoGP long enough that he has been on the 2 strokers... i'd think he would be best qualified to judge which bikes are easier to ride.
Now, everyone says that the 500cc MotoGP bikes of mid 90's were brutal slayers compared to the new MotoGP bikes and how todays crop of MotoGP riders wouldnt be able to contain those beasts...and i partially agree...Rossi has ridden MotoGP long enough that he has been on the 2 strokers... i'd think he would be best qualified to judge which bikes are easier to ride.
If that were the case, then nobody would crash, but we see a couple of those every week. But I get your point, and I agree.
I'm a VR fan myself, but stoner is a great rider, he did well with Ducati but I knew he would win the "1" for 2011/12 especially with Honda.Plus he's racing for his new son/daughter...Now MS is going to be a contender next year, if he can keep the rubber Side down.
I actually want to get an old 2-stroke race bike, just for the challenge and to avoid the electronic aids.
Personally, it's all about what you're looking for out of the sport in general.
Some of us will never see the track, and are perfectly content riding around on the street. You have your cruiser guys, your timmies posers, commuters, and twisties junkies. All have varying levels of riding skill. They may or may not know that they can push their bikes much harder, but that's not what interests them. To them, it's a hobby that they like to enjoy safely. Electronics aids will help these people the most, and I fully support their implementation here.
On the track, it gets a bit tricky. Suffice it to say, for many of us track riders, this is an expensive, but fun hobby. We have no hopes or dreams of reaching AMA, WSB or MotoGP. Some of the younger guys, ala Amzy and Aubrey might, but they're the exception rather than the rule.
For this group of people, you have those that just want to race around the track and have a good time. They need to work on Monday, and crashes just add expense, injury and headaches. For them, electronic aids mean that they can enjoy their time on the track without too much worry for what's going to happen when they need to go home.
Others actually look for the challenge. They yearn for the perfect corner, where the corner entry, apex and exit just flow together in perfect harmony, with trail braking right up to the apex, and smooth progressive throttle roll-on on the way out. It may take these riders years to accomplish this feat consistently, but it's that quest, that journey that drives these riders. They don't mind crashing, they just want to practice their skill and get good. Electronic aids are their enemy, as it removes themselves from the equation. They want to be one with the bike, and not have a middle layer in between that candy coats it.
At the professional level, it seems that electronic aids are what's necessary to win. The human variable is too random and stochastic, you cannot rely on it to perform consistently and adequately. Sometimes the rider will brake too late, or roll the throttle on too hard. To win, you need the perfect lap almost every single time. Electronic aids give you that.
So whether you like it or not, electronic aids are here to stay. The market demand for it is simply too great. But if you're a purist, and you want to really experience the bike for what it is, you can just switch that stuff off (or pull the fuse). That way, you can learn and be challenged. Just be prepared to be trounced by other riders with less "skill" with the aids still on.
Personally, it's all about what you're looking for out of the sport in general.
Some of us will never see the track, and are perfectly content riding around on the street. You have your cruiser guys, your timmies posers, commuters, and twisties junkies. All have varying levels of riding skill. They may or may not know that they can push their bikes much harder, but that's not what interests them. To them, it's a hobby that they like to enjoy safely. Electronics aids will help these people the most, and I fully support their implementation here.
On the track, it gets a bit tricky. Suffice it to say, for many of us track riders, this is an expensive, but fun hobby. We have no hopes or dreams of reaching AMA, WSB or MotoGP. Some of the younger guys, ala Amzy and Aubrey might, but they're the exception rather than the rule.
For this group of people, you have those that just want to race around the track and have a good time. They need to work on Monday, and crashes just add expense, injury and headaches. For them, electronic aids mean that they can enjoy their time on the track without too much worry for what's going to happen when they need to go home.
Others actually look for the challenge. They yearn for the perfect corner, where the corner entry, apex and exit just flow together in perfect harmony, with trail braking right up to the apex, and smooth progressive throttle roll-on on the way out. It may take these riders years to accomplish this feat consistently, but it's that quest, that journey that drives these riders. They don't mind crashing, they just want to practice their skill and get good. Electronic aids are their enemy, as it removes themselves from the equation. They want to be one with the bike, and not have a middle layer in between that candy coats it.
At the professional level, it seems that electronic aids are what's necessary to win. The human variable is too random and stochastic, you cannot rely on it to perform consistently and adequately. Sometimes the rider will brake too late, or roll the throttle on too hard. To win, you need the perfect lap almost every single time. Electronic aids give you that.
So whether you like it or not, electronic aids are here to stay. The market demand for it is simply too great. But if you're a purist, and you want to really experience the bike for what it is, you can just switch that stuff off (or pull the fuse). That way, you can learn and be challenged. Just be prepared to be trounced by other riders with less "skill" with the aids still on.
'bogie turn 7?
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