Does anyone know how to go about getting a VIN number for a frame I build myself?
Thanks
Menessis
Thanks
Menessis
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Home Made Frame VIN Number
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If a motorcycle can fall under the home built catagory you can get the MTO to issue a VIN: HOM
This is usually for when you build your own trailer but there are also regulations for Kit cars which can be completely fabricated (frame up) and registered.
The cost and work involved + insurance after the fact is something you have to look into before trying it.
If you even can go that way.
This is usually for when you build your own trailer but there are also regulations for Kit cars which can be completely fabricated (frame up) and registered.
The cost and work involved + insurance after the fact is something you have to look into before trying it.
If you even can go that way.
Home-built vehicles are required to conform to the same set of Transport Canada safety and emissions regulations that every other vehicle in Canada has to conform to. In other words, if you build something like this today, it will be required to conform to all applicable safety and emission standards for a 2011 model vehicle.
Good luck with that. I know of no successful way of doing it. I know of someone who built a kit bike from an American-sourced kit, and was not able to get it registered.
The USA has various exemptions from the standards for low-volume vehicle manufacturers or home-constructed vehicles, which allows the existence of kit cars and the like, but Canada has no such process.
Good luck with that. I know of no successful way of doing it. I know of someone who built a kit bike from an American-sourced kit, and was not able to get it registered.
The USA has various exemptions from the standards for low-volume vehicle manufacturers or home-constructed vehicles, which allows the existence of kit cars and the like, but Canada has no such process.
Does that mean you could possibly register it in the US and then import it?
But even if you can get it registered insurance sometimes has their own rules. Off topic example: Since the law changed so that people cannot ride in the back of a pickup due to there being no seatbelts I found a company that offers a kit to install seats and belts in the bed of a truck. It is perfectly legal in most (all?) states and I even verified it would be legal to install and have passengers in it in Ontario. However, at least 3 insurance companies told me they wouldn't touch the vehicle if I did and said I probably wouldn't find anyone that would insure it. I already have one car with useless back seats, I didn't want another so I scrapped the pickup idea.
Got to motorcycle salvage yard
Buy old beat up cheap frame with papers
Cut Frame tube with VIN stamped
Add tube to home built frame
Grind welds smooth and paint
Register Bike
*Or so I've been told*
Key words "is building". Let's see what happens when he tries to get an actual license plate and insurance for it. Therein lies the problem.
Found a link with some information. The big problem appears to involve importing into Canada (i.e. American-sourced kit cars or parts with which to construct a kit car) as opposed to a completely home-built vehicle.
http://www.canadianrodder.com/features/fyi/registering.htm
Insurance will be an issue.
edit: Found another link with more information on the various problems that can be encountered.
http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-tech-registration-sva-insurance/23860-canadian-kit-car-laws.html
No, because then you would have to go through RIV (Registrar of Imported Vehicles), and the vehicle won't be on the list of vehicles eligible for legal import into Canada. Actually, you COULD do it, but you would have to wait 15 years ...
They do it in a different country that has legal exemptions from safety and emission standards for home-builders and low-volume manufacturers!
Canada doesn't, and you can't import those into Canada because they're not on RIV's list of vehicles less than 15 years old which are eligible for being imported into Canada. That's the problem someone I know ran into. Bought and built a Titan chopper kit; couldn't register it. No way, no how.
I've seen sales ads for car registrations comlete with serial number plates. For display purposes only of course. If one was ever caught on the road (Or IIRC off the road) with falsified registration the police would be all over them. If there was an accident the insurance company would smile and walk away.
If he is mostly truthful with the insurance company I would think that a claim shouldn't be an issue. As long as he tells them it's whatever bike the frame is but "heavily modified" and gives them pics and whatnot. If they agree to insure it after that (I doubt they would) any claims shouldn't be a problem. But, like I said, he would have to tell them about the "modifications".I wouldn't think using the VIN from another frame would be a legal issue either since he would've basically modded that existing bike into his new bike. The difference is that the only remaining original piece is just the part of the frame with the VIN. If the rest of the bike goes into the trash I wouldn't think it would be an issue but, considering how anal the province seems to be about it, I'm probably wrong.
How does the story you just told have anything to do with modding frames?
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