Here's a Shocker...

The problem is the testing process I think, not the courses. Regardless of who you pay to teach you (my mother taught me btw, before graduated licensing existed), all you have to do is make the progression from G1 to G2 to G and you are good. Evidently poor drivers are succeeding in making the progression.

Some people just want to be allowed to drive, without consideration for anything else. Others take pride in their abilities and want to be good drivers. Either case, taken to their logical conclusions will result in dramatically different outcomes, but both types have to share the road.
 
This doesn't really bother me so much as the fact that these people still manage to somehow pass the ministry-run driving tests.

Now THAT is something worth investigating...
 
In other countries with a similar climates they have to pass a test in the snow.
It's strange how easy it is for people to get a license without ever having to demonstrate they can control the car in the snow.
And we wonder why we have so many collisions in winter.
Does this help the insurance companies make more money with these laxed standards?

Also, if English and French are our official language then why are people allowed and receive training in other languages.
Can they take the test in other languages?
 
Just more reason to stay out of Brampton.
 
The only thing I found shocking was this:

"And drivers beware: insurance companies told the Star that if you are in an accident while taking lessons from these schools you may not be fully protected."

Then again, maybe not so shocking. I'm sure it's just a scare tactic but I'd be royally peeved if I got the butt end of that stick.
 
I drive semi-regularly in Mississauga, haven't had any issues. I live in downtown Toronto, good training grounds for defensive driving.

The only thing I found shocking was this:

"And drivers beware: insurance companies told the Star that if you are in an accident while taking lessons from these schools you may not be fully protected."

Then again, maybe not so shocking. I'm sure it's just a scare tactic but I'd be royally peeved if I got the butt end of that stick.

Yeah, since when do insurance companies ask where you took your driving lessons? What about the people who were taught by a friend or family member? It's not a legal obligation to take lessons from an MTO approved driving school. Many people don't go to a rider training school to get their bike license. That's a load of bunk.
 
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Government needs as many drivers on the road so to collect fees/taxes. They never cared how people were being taught.
 
This doesn't really bother me so much as the fact that these people still manage to somehow pass the ministry-run driving tests.

Now THAT is something worth investigating...

Somebody is getting paid
 
In other countries with a similar climates they have to pass a test in the snow.
It's strange how easy it is for people to get a license without ever having to demonstrate they can control the car in the snow.
And we wonder why we have so many collisions in winter.

I took my G2 in a snowstorm and did fine a few years ago :P The problem is if they were to try and get everyone booked on a day with snow, the licensing system will run slower than it already does now much like motorcycle licensing. Since they only have half the year to test due to snow, it gets booked really fast where you would need to book months ahead.

Driving examiners are supposed to test by the same standards which is a major problem. Supposedly if you hit a curb when parking, you're supposed to fail but I know of 2 people that hit the curb while parking and passed... I've had a friend fail for going less than 5 km/h over on a down hill and a friend that passed going 10km/h over..
 
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It's rather easy to test even in Summer.
Setup a simulated real world course.
Add water and in some places something slippery e.g. vegetable oil.
Then have 25 people tested in 1 hour on said course.
You would need about 4 MTO personal and a few cameras.
They must do certain speeds and must do certain maneuvers.

The tests will be in English or French only.


As you see it would be cheap and easy and more importantly highly effective resulting in safer drivers.
But that would lead to fewer permits fewer cars being sold and fewer insurance policies sold.
As with most things in North America, profit first.
 
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