Help! I can't get my oil filter nut off!! - 2010 Ninja 250

[ryan6177]

Dear all,

I am a new rider and was doing my first oil change on my 2010 Ninja 250.
I already drained the oil but I can't get the oil filter nut off!!! I tried for an hour but no luck.

I also found my rear brake light is not working but don't know where I can check. The tail light is on but when I tap on the rear brake, the light is not working.

I would like to ask for help/suggestions

 

[scottwrightF1]

Dear all,

I am a new rider and was doing my first oil change on my 2010 Ninja 250.
I already drained the oil but I can't get the oil filter nut off!!! I tried for an hour but no luck.

I also found my rear brake light is not working but don't know where I can check. The tail light is on but when I tap on the rear brake, the light is not working.

I would like to ask for help/suggestions

If you cannot get your oil nut off. Try using a longer pipe extension or a longer tool ratchet.

For your rear brake light not working. There is a spring behind the brake pedal may have came off or loose hanging somewhere there.

Check this video out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SLnJRqEyvk

Hope this helps and good luck!

 

[Malks]

I also found my rear brake light is not working but don't know where I can check. The tail light is on but when I tap on the rear brake, the light is not working.

If the brake light is a bulb (not LED) then it's likely a dual filament type and only the brighter brake filament is broken. Replace the bulb and see if that's your problem.

 

[DECIMIS]

Hammer a screw driver right through the oil filter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqseiKdehU

 

[inreb]

Number 1 make sure you're turning the nut left. That may seem obvious but laying on your back could confuse matters. You could refill the crankcase with brand new cheap oil and run the motor to hot. The nut should come off easier then. Also, some people skip filter changes ie; 2 oil changes per filter.

 

[Scuba Steve]

Don't try and hammer anything it is a cartridge style filter. Make sure you are turning the correct direction and use a good socket.

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[Motocon]

When you squeeze the front brake lever does the rear brake come on??? That would tell if the bulb is working properly.
Than you could focus on the switch at the rear pedal.

 

[PrivatePilot]

Is the nut stripped? Is it just tight?

If it's just tight, leverage often helps. Here's an old mechanics trick that will basically double the length of your wrench for you and give you a ton more leverage.

Flip the second wrench the other way for tightening, if needed. For an oil filter...don't do that.

And yes, as mentioned, make sure you're turning the right way. When you're on your back or pretzeled into whatever position you may be in sometimes it's easy to mix up left and right... I've done thousands of oil changes over the years and I still find myself accidentally tightening a bolt or the filter vs loosening on occasion.

 

[inreb]

Another trick might be to thermal shock the nut. Spritz ice cold water on the hot nut that'l likely crack her loose.

 

[ryan6177]

To Motocon,

The front brake light is working but not the rear brake light.
How I can change the bulb at the tail light?

Thanks

 

[PrivatePilot]

To Motocon,

The front brake light is working but not the rear brake light.
How I can change the bulb at the tail light?

Thanks

Front brake light? You mean the brake light (on the back of the bike) works with the front brake lever, but the foot pedal (for the rear brake) doesn't activate the brake light?

 

[TK4]

To Motocon,

The front brake light is working but not the rear brake light.
How I can change the bulb at the tail light?

Thanks

If the brake lamp comes on with the front switch but not the rear, the problem isn't the bulb. The rear brake uses a mechanical switch, it likely needs to be adjusted.
The oil filter bolt has a 12mm head on it, get a proper SIX POINT socket and a use a ratchet or Johnson bar. Give it a gentle tap and it should come off.

 

[mistersouthpaw]

Try pb blaster on it.. That **** works awesome


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[inreb]

Actually, there is a problem with this pictured demonstration.

 

[boyoboy]

Actually, there is a problem with this pictured demonstration.

we could just
say its opposite day


if the bolt head is at threat to be rounded, a 6 point socket may be in order

 

[ryan6177]

Yes

 

[ryan6177]

Front brake light? You mean the brake light (on the back of the bike) works with the front brake lever, but the foot pedal (for the rear brake) doesn't activate the brake light?

Yes, the foot pedal (for the rear brake) doesn't activate the brake light.

 

[PrivatePilot]

Actually, there is a problem with this pictured demonstration.

we could justsay its opposite day

He's holding the wrench the wrong way...yeah, it looks like he's going to pull on it vs push but the wrenches are setup the right way to loosen the nut - pull on the way he's holding it in the photo, and yeah.. the wrenches just come apart - push on it and they do their thing and the bolt/nut loosens.

Here's a video to visualize better...

[video=youtube;SDI4j1LgqV4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDI4j1LgqV4[/video]

Yes, the foot pedal (for the rear brake) doesn't activate the brake light.

The brake light switch at the foot pedal is either come disconnected or is out of adjustment. Look under the bike in the vicinity of the pedal or it's linkage and you should see the switch somewhere - it's operation is fairly straightforward so you should be able to figure out how to get it working if it's just an adjustment issue. Sometimes pressing abnormally hard on the pedal may end up turning the light on if it's an adjustment issue.

 

[Brian P]

Yes, the foot pedal (for the rear brake) doesn't activate the brake light.

The switch is adjustable. Adjust it!

Take a look at your rear brake pedal. There are two springs connected to it. The heavy spring is the one that pulls the pedal back to its home position. The light one leads into a little round housing - that's the rear brake switch. Note that this housing passes through a hex-shaped nut which is probably made of plastic. That's the adjustment nut.

Now, for a little bit of diagnosis. With the key on, pull on that little spring directly. Note that it's tied to a little plunger that comes out the bottom of the above-mentioned switch housing. If the brake lamp works when you pull on the spring and plunger directly, the switch simply needs to be adjusted (see below). If the brake lamp does not operate even when you can see that plunger pulling out of the housing, then either the switch is bad or it isn't plugged in - follow the wiring that comes out the top of the switch housing to the plug and make sure it's secure. Switch plugged in and the plunger pulls in and out and yet still no workie? replace the switch with a new one. They're cheap.

'Course, the other possibility is that the little spring is broken or missing. If you can see the little round housing with plastic nut and a wire coming out the top of it, and it's not connected in any way to the brake lever ... that's your problem, and take one guess how you need to fix it.

So ... if the switch is in place and working and the spring is where it should be, it needs to be adjusted. Turn the plastic nut NOT the switch housing itself. Turn it so that the switch housing moves further away from the spring (so that pulling on the spring pulls the plunger more / sooner). It's easy ... you'll figure it out.

 

[ryan6177]

The switch is adjustable. Adjust it!

Take a look at your rear brake pedal. There are two springs connected to it. The heavy spring is the one that pulls the pedal back to its home position. The light one leads into a little round housing - that's the rear brake switch. Note that this housing passes through a hex-shaped nut which is probably made of plastic. That's the adjustment nut.

Now, for a little bit of diagnosis. With the key on, pull on that little spring directly. Note that it's tied to a little plunger that comes out the bottom of the above-mentioned switch housing. If the brake lamp works when you pull on the spring and plunger directly, the switch simply needs to be adjusted (see below). If the brake lamp does not operate even when you can see that plunger pulling out of the housing, then either the switch is bad or it isn't plugged in - follow the wiring that comes out the top of the switch housing to the plug and make sure it's secure. Switch plugged in and the plunger pulls in and out and yet still no workie? replace the switch with a new one. They're cheap.

'Course, the other possibility is that the little spring is broken or missing. If you can see the little round housing with plastic nut and a wire coming out the top of it, and it's not connected in any way to the brake lever ... that's your problem, and take one guess how you need to fix it.

So ... if the switch is in place and working and the spring is where it should be, it needs to be adjusted. Turn the plastic nut NOT the switch housing itself. Turn it so that the switch housing moves further away from the spring (so that pulling on the spring pulls the plunger more / sooner). It's easy ... you'll figure it out.

Thank you Brian P. I checked the rear brake pedal and found the light spring is missing. That disconnect the heavy spring to the brake switch.
Now I wonder where I can find the light spring so I can put it back on?

Thanks