Have your say before it's too late (speed limit)

30% of people asked support the lowering? Who are these jackasses? I love the "people speed above 50km in residential areas so we should lover the limit". Moron, they are already speeding , how is speeding 10 or 20 over a limit gonna change their speeding?
 
Angry people tend to speed. Lowering the speed limit doesn't make them less angry. Don't these bureaucrats know anything?
 
If this is the same one/linked to the same comments then I've already thrown in my opinion. In the end, I could tolerate the 40km/h limit if it also meant a 120-140km/h limit on the 400 series and 100km/h vs 80km/h on the rural routes up north. That said, I'd rather they keep the city limits as-is at 50km/h, as lowering the limits won't do anything but allow for more ticketing/fines since people will drive the speed the road allows. Honestly, I'm sick of breaking the law when I do 120km/h or so on the 401 when it is wide open, or doing 90-95km/h on HWY 35 trying not to be run over from behind on my bike.

Also call me heartless, but if the real issue is pedestrians walking in front of a car at 50km/h and getting hit, then why are we the drivers being punished for something pedestrians keep doing? If anything, dropping speeds will make MORE pedestrians step in front of cars since the risk is less.
 
Thank you for the link! A lower speed limit is crazy!
 
I'm all for a lower speed limit. That way I can keep up with all of you and your bikes with things like "double-digit horsepower".
Seriously though, Roomie nailed it: All about the $$
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Pro tip: The slower you travel the bigger your world is.
 
The government is reacting to a recent study that found that pedestrian fatalities decrease drastically if the pedestrian is struck by a vehicle moving 40km/h vs 50km/h.
I don't like the nanny state getting more intense, but as a person who works in news there are really too many pedestrian fatalities each week. It's sickening. I've seen TV footage that would have some here applauding this move. I wouldn't go that far, but something has to change.
 
How about ticket pedestrians for crossing away from crosswalks? Half of them have their nose buried in their phone.

How about re-emphasize "look both ways before you cross"?
 
Brian P said:
How about ticket pedestrians for crossing away from crosswalks? Half of them have their nose buried in their phone.

How about re-emphasize "look both ways before you cross"?
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OMG .. common sense! JayWalk tickets !!!

I have heard in the USA there are communities that have the lower speed limits,, and that allows e-vehicles ,, golf carts , etc to be legal on the roads..

I understand we have some vehicles that are limited to lower speed streets,, is that true?
 
In my neighbourhood (residential Vaughan) most roads have a speed limit of 40 km/hr, majority of drivers travel at 60 km/hr or greater. There is a proposal by some to lower speeds in those situations to 30 km/hr (as has been done in some Toronto neighbourhoods). When people don't respect laws what will changing them or adding more laws supposed to accomplish?

Current speeds laws in residential neighbourhoods are fine; simply enforce them ticketing drivers and pedestrians when they don't follow (which) may improve pedestrian safety.
 
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I agree with everything you said. On some city streets, especially narrow ones downtown with parked cars, hidden driveways and crosswalks, 40 km/h is reasonable; but in others it just doesn't make sense. I, too, hate that we are not permitted to drive 120km/h on the empty stretches of the 401. It's torture driving 100 km/h from Kingston to Cornwall in good weather, all the while reading all those warning signs about speeding fines and points, and knowing that 115 km/h or 120 km/h in wide open spaces in most jurisdictions in North America or Europe is fine. Better planning and road management would help us all, as would pedestrians taking more care in the city. It's an organic system and everyone has a role to play.

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If this is the same one/linked to the same comments then I've already thrown in my opinion. In the end, I could tolerate the 40km/h limit if it also meant a 120-140km/h limit on the 400 series and 100km/h vs 80km/h on the rural routes up north. That said, I'd rather they keep the city limits as-is at 50km/h, as lowering the limits won't do anything but allow for more ticketing/fines since people will drive the speed the road allows. Honestly, I'm sick of breaking the law when I do 120km/h or so on the 401 when it is wide open, or doing 90-95km/h on HWY 35 trying not to be run over from behind on my bike.

Also call me heartless, but if the real issue is pedestrians walking in front of a car at 50km/h and getting hit, then why are we the drivers being punished for something pedestrians keep doing? If anything, dropping speeds will make MORE pedestrians step in front of cars since the risk is less.
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Brian P said:
How about ticket pedestrians for crossing away from crosswalks? Half of them have their nose buried in their phone.

How about re-emphasize "look both ways before you cross"?
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What about the triple risk pedestrians. For many older ones a walk to a safe crossing is hard, they aren't into sprinting across a wide street and even a minor injury can be fatal. Still you see them gazing across the 4 lane road at Shoppers Drugs or the LCBO.
 
trebororr said:
In my neighbourhood (residential Vaughan) most roads have a speed limit of 40 km/hr, majority of drivers travel at 60 km/hr or greater. There is a proposal by some to lower speeds in those situations to 30 km/hr (as has been done in some Toronto neighbourhoods). When people don't respect laws what will changing them or adding more laws supposed to accomplish?

Current speeds laws in residential neighbourhoods are fine; simply enforce them ticketing drivers and pedestrians when they don't follow (which) may improve pedestrian safety.
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The only speed limit I give a crap about is 50 over. I suggest we lower the speed limit to 30 and impound card at 20 over.

Does any one have statics on who is at fault in most pedestrian accidents?
 
griff2 said:
Why?

"33% of fatally injured pedestrians acted in a manner which caused or contributed to the crash" - Pedestrian Death Review http://www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca/stel...scs/@www/@com/documents/webasset/ec161058.pdf

That implies that 67% are not the fault of pedestrian actions. Sounds like we should simply ban cars in places where pedestrians might be found.
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It also says that 33% were struck by a driver who had committed a traffic infraction (unspecified at this point) prior to the crash. What happened to the remaining 34%? No one's fault?

"a significant number of pedestrians were struck by a heavy truck (12%) or a public transit vehicle (9%)." So let's ban buses and trucks?

"In 28% of the pedestrians, toxicologywas positive for drugs, alcohol or both. While 2% of pedestrians struck by amotor vehicle will die, this rises to 48% for intoxicated pedestrians." Oh boy. Now we need drunk-walking laws.

This report makes a flawed assumption that reducing a posted speed limit will correspondingly reduce traffic speed. It doesn't, and this has been shown extensively elsewhere. A 40 km/h speed limit on the "arterial roads" that are responsible for a significant number of fatalities will not be tolerated by drivers.

Pedestrians crossing mid-block (not at a designated crossing) are a big problem. Maybe it's a roadway engineering problem ... too far to the next legal crossover. There's a bad spot near my house ...

Fatalities from motor vehicle collisions can be completely eliminated by eliminating all motor vehicles - and going back to the 1800s. A reasonable compromise has to be made.
 
I am going to ask them to lower it to 30km/h because if you post 40 people will do 10+ so they will go 50
if you want ppl to go no more than 40 then post it at 30 ergo saving pedestrians from being crushed and killed
you can all thank me later when you are going 30

besides with all the condos and other dwellings within the city...traffic aints goings nowheres
more pplz more carz more trafficz more gridlockz
cool story broz
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