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Had my 1st service for the NC750X.

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Took it in at the 1000 km mark.

Great service. The bill came to just over $200. I am now good for some track times (kidding).

Anyway, the service rep was previously employed by a BMW dealer and told me the 1st services on those bikes was always in the $500+ range.

Not much inventory in the showroom which is sad. I feel fortunate that I scored this bike back in March.
 
$500+... Right.

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Merkid said:
Took it in at the 1000 km mark.

Great service. The bill came to just over $200. I am now good for some track times (kidding).

Anyway, the service rep was previously employed by a BMW dealer and told me the 1st services on those bikes was always in the $500+ range.

Not much inventory in the showroom which is sad. I feel fortunate that I scored this bike back in March.
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Does that bike still have a short first gear? I've ridden an NC700X.
Other than the short first gear and the rear suspension was set way too firm for me, it was a good bike.
 
Maniac said:
$500+... Right.

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I think the $500+ is for the big Beemers. 1st service on a GS would add valve check, cyl head retorque, steering head adjustment, spoke tension test/adjust (if equipped), and final drive oil change. Probably add $150+ for all that.
 
Mad Mike said:
I think the $500+ is for the big Beemers. 1st service on a GS would add valve check, cyl head retorque, steering head adjustment, spoke tension test/adjust (if equipped), and final drive oil change. Probably add $150+ for all that.
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I don't think I've ever brought a bike into a dealer for routine services. The first service on most Honda's is only O&F -- a filter $15 and 4l of T5 $20 - an hour of time at my convenience, and I'm done for $35.

The extra few hundred could be used to fill the gas tank (who'd have ever thought a DL650 would cost $45 to fill!)
 
I could be wrong, but aren't shop rates in the same ball park?
The difference in cost, is due to the number of items on the checklist that each brand has and the complexity of the task.

As far as four-wheelers go, there is a definite brand bias to a higher cost.
 
Over $33 for a filter? Ouch. My 750 Honda filter was $5. The Kwak maybe $10.
 
Mad Mike said:
I think the $500+ is for the big Beemers. 1st service on a GS would add valve check, cyl head retorque, steering head adjustment, spoke tension test/adjust (if equipped), and final drive oil change. Probably add $150+ for all that.
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Maybe (though I doubt, the first service checklist is the same for all BMWs afair), but we are talking about 750cc Honda here, not a Goldwing or something.
 
Maniac said:
Maybe (though I doubt, the first service checklist is the same for all BMWs afair), but we are talking about 750cc Honda here, not a Goldwing or something.
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The NC750 1st service is only Oil and Filter -- even at Honda OE parts prices $200+ is heavy for an oil change. You can see the first service items listed below, they are from Honda's service manual. The items with a wrench beside them are the ones Honda says are difficult for novices.

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Mad Mike said:
The NC750 1st service is only Oil and Filter -- even at Honda OE parts prices $200+ is heavy for an oil change. You can see the first service items listed below, they are from Honda's service manual. The items with a wrench beside them are the ones Honda says are difficult for novices.

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BMW list for the first service is a bit longer:

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Mad Mike said:
The NC750 1st service is only Oil and Filter -- even at Honda OE parts prices $200+ is heavy for an oil change. You can see the first service items listed below, they are from Honda's service manual. The items with a wrench beside them are the ones Honda says are difficult for novices.

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Is there not an inspection of a bunch of parts from the bike on the first service?
Chain, bolts, fluid levels, lines, stands, forks, lights, tyres, wheels, cables, abs, pulling any codes etc.
 
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Maniac said:
BMW list for the first service is a bit longer:

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Most Euro and American bike makers have to do this. Japanese makers engineer, test, and manage final build quality to a higher standard which is built into the initial bike cost.
 
Baggsy said:
Is there not an inspection of a bunch of parts from the bike on the first service?
Chain, bolts, fluid levels, lines, stands, forks, lights, tyres, wheels, cables, abs, pulling any codes etc.
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Japanese bikes don't normally require this, it's done at the factory and in PDI. I'm sure most shops do a visual and are aware of problematic areas -- but you're not re-torquing bolts, adjusting steering head play, adjusting levers, chains and cables, or truing spokes on Japanese bikes at 600 miles.
 
Mad Mike said:
Honda doesn't make filters -- most likely a HiFlo -- K&N, most OE Japanese and British bikes rebrand HiFlo. An HF240 oil filter costs around $10.
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BMW doesn't make filters - most likely it's Mahle or Mann, that I can go and buy cheaper somewhere else, but I don't want to bother for $10. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Mad Mike said:
Japanese bikes don't normally require this, it's done at the factory and in PDI. I'm sure most shops do a visual and are aware of problematic areas -- but you're not re-torquing bolts, adjusting steering head play, adjusting levers, chains and cables, or truing spokes on Japanese bikes at 600 miles.
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BMW does it as part of the PDI as well, but it makes total sense to me to recheck everything after 1000 km.
 
Baggsy said:
Is there not an inspection of a bunch of parts from the bike on the first service?
Chain, bolts, fluid levels, lines, stands, forks, lights, tyres, wheels, cables, abs, pulling any codes etc.
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I think there's a lot of checking, verifying and adjusting going on to pad/justify the labor hours for the first service, regardless of whether a level of build quality is taken into account.

for example:
"Function test, engine start suppression." - Does the key/ kill switch work?
"Checking lights and signaling equipment" - I do that from the seat before I go riding.
"Checking brake fluid level..." X2 - Yup, I can see them. They're still full.

I believe you need to take the bike in for the scheduled services so as not to void your warranty, so in many cases this will be one of the few times the service department will ever see the bike.

When harley brought out the Street Rod (2006?) I went in to the dealer to check it out. The sales guy was telling me about the service intervals and cost of the visit. I seem to recall him telling me that the first one was several hundred dollars. I noted that I thought that was expensive, and he said it was but that most of the bikes they sell go several years between service visits because of the low km.'s accumulated yearly.
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