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Fortnine on fuel stabilizers effectiveness
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bigpoppa
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afaik only shell premium is ethanol free
bigpoppa
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esso is ethanol free?
hell no, clearly says up to 10% at the pump.
I believe fuel stabilizers are generally not needed for the relatively short periods (4-6 months) that people store their motorcycles and lawn mowers for.
I do think gas left for years will benefit from a fuel stabilizer. We left our bikes in a shed in Croatia in 2016, just topped up the tank and put in Stabil. European gas is notorious for high ethanol content. Didn't get back to them until 2019. Bikes started up perfectly. I credit the stabilizer for not gumming up the gas over the three years of storage.
I do think gas left for years will benefit from a fuel stabilizer. We left our bikes in a shed in Croatia in 2016, just topped up the tank and put in Stabil. European gas is notorious for high ethanol content. Didn't get back to them until 2019. Bikes started up perfectly. I credit the stabilizer for not gumming up the gas over the three years of storage.
Shell is the only one that actually writes 0% ethanol on their stickers on the pump. The renewable-fuel mandates only cover 87 octane fuel - that's the only fuel grade that is required* to contain it.
Given the tendency of fuel to get shipped from whatever supplier to whatever filling station ... A lot of other brands of 91 octane fuel actually are ethanol-free, even though they're not labelled as such, because they might be coming from the same refinery that's supplying Shell ... but it doesn't have to be.
*"required" has some fleet-averaging in it, that allows some of the regular fuel to contain less or no ethanol if offset by the rest of it having more than the fleet-average minimum. Means non-ethanol 87 octane is in very limited supply ...
Given the tendency of fuel to get shipped from whatever supplier to whatever filling station ... A lot of other brands of 91 octane fuel actually are ethanol-free, even though they're not labelled as such, because they might be coming from the same refinery that's supplying Shell ... but it doesn't have to be.
*"required" has some fleet-averaging in it, that allows some of the regular fuel to contain less or no ethanol if offset by the rest of it having more than the fleet-average minimum. Means non-ethanol 87 octane is in very limited supply ...
boyoboy
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interesting article. testing methods on you tube ? not sure if this testing was a relevant real world test. lacks any given protocols for the testing. seemed huge amounts of pouring water were used at some point.
the videos first words "I was up late writing a SCRIPT..."
having ethanol free gasoline? seems no one will disagree on its use.
so in canada we have sunoco and shell 91 and ctc.
are these our only choices for ethanol free gasoline?
the videos first words "I was up late writing a SCRIPT..."
having ethanol free gasoline? seems no one will disagree on its use.
so in canada we have sunoco and shell 91 and ctc.
are these our only choices for ethanol free gasoline?
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boyoboy
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ahh...here we go...ty r3
great link
Where do you buy your gas?
Those "ethanol free gas station" websites are horribly out of date and full of outdated and just plain incorrect info now.
Canadian Tire 91 and Shell 91 (or higher) are the ONLY non ethanol gas options (at mainstream stations now) any longer. Lots of websites still list Esso premium but that's incorrect, and has been for about 4-5 years now.
DownUnder
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Shell 91 and VP U4.4 in Canada. Ive left a bike stored for over 3 years in Aus with the premium fuel there, teaspoon full of oil in the cylinders and fresh battery and it started first go and ran without a hiccup.
That being said, I have a friend with a supercharged bmw at about 600hp that only runs on the cheapest, lowest octane, most ethanol laced fuel you can buy. However it doesnt sit in the tank very long and there isnt a >60'C change in ambient temperature through the year.
boyoboy
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thumbs up for posting good info
Costco Canada premium is not ethanol free.
Used to be at some stations.
Isn't anymore.
If there's no sticker saying "ethanol free", expect ethanol.
There's no stickers at Costco anymore.
A lot of places have neither available, what do you do then?
Regardless I don’t care about burning ethanol through the summer, I just don’t want it in the tank at the end of the year for the winter. Heck, one place I rode to this summer (Pickle Lake) didn’t even have premium available.
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