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Disclosure question

Noobierider

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So I was pulled over in the summer by a park ranger, got a speeding ticket. Requested a trial date and got a notice about a month ago that the court date is December 5th. I've requested officers disclosure but have yet to receive it, if I don't get it by the court date do I go to court or is there a number I call in regards to disclosure? Any input from previous experience would be appreciated. Thanks guys
 
You could request it again in writing but that increases the odds of getting a response back (which you don't want). On the other hand, the judge may see it as having done your due diligence.

I requested mine only once and got no response. I sent it via registered mail and got a read receipt confirming delivery. I'm pretty certain this would've been enough but I can't say because my cop no-showed lol :)
 
It's not like before, now they don't just dismiss cases because of failure of disclosure, now they postpone the date 1 month to give the cop enough time to provide it.
 
It's not like before, now they don't just dismiss cases because of failure of disclosure, now they postpone the date 1 month to give the cop enough time to provide it.

I think that was always an option at the judge's discretion but, if that's what they're leaning toward now, I guess I'll consider myself lucky!
 
It's not like before, now they don't just dismiss cases because of failure of disclosure, now they postpone the date 1 month to give the cop enough time to provide it.

If so then that error counts against The Crown, not stopping the 11b clock. Your chances of a successful 11b submission go up as a result.
 
Park rangers give out speeding tickets? Like those guys that drive around the pickups at conservation areas?
 
Park rangers give out speeding tickets? Like those guys that drive around the pickups at conservation areas?

If they're classified as "Provincial Offences Act Officers", then yes. For example Niagara Parks Police are unarmed Provincial Offences Officers.

Also watch out if you decide that you want to go south and ride Skyline Drive to the BRP. Their park rangers are considered to be Federal Police for purposes of issuing tickets.
 
So those speed limit signs they have in provincial parks are enforceable by law? I always thought they could just kick you out of the park for speeding.
 
So those speed limit signs they have in provincial parks are enforceable by law? I always thought they could just kick you out of the park for speeding.

If we're talking roads that have valid speed limit signs (right size, content, colour, etc.) then you can most certainly be charged.
 
If we're talking roads that have valid speed limit signs (right size, content, colour, etc.) then you can most certainly be charged.

I'm talking places like the Elora Gorge Conservation Area or Awenda Provincial Park, etc. No idea if their signs meet the proper specs but they look the same as the normal road signs to me.
 
I'm talking places like the Elora Gorge Conservation Area or Awenda Provincial Park, etc. No idea if their signs meet the proper specs but they look the same as the normal road signs to me.

It's more a question of if they're "assumed roads." If these are actual Provincial Roads, then the signs likely conform to the normal requirements. With or without the signs if they are actual Provincial or civic roadways, then all the normal laws apply. Even if they aren't 'actual' roads, under the law, the Criminal Code of Canada laws with respect to vehicle use still apply (dangerous operation, impaired operation, etc.).
 
I was at Sibbil Point up near Simcoe and funny thing is I was on my way out of the park. I was contemplating not stopping as the exit booth was 150 meters away. It took yogi bear almost an hour to issue the ticket while he was on the phone, asking for instructions I suppose. Just hoping his notes are whack so it can be dropped
 

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