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Covid - Long Haulers...

Jampy00

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Just watched this "interesting" video. Not sure how I am supposed to feel about this?
The skeptic in me certainly has taken the lead, I just can't help think this is the new "bad back".
While there may be some truth to this, I am almost certain we all know what will happen...

 
There's going to be a few genuine cases and a whole lot of people who convince themselves that they are covid long haulers. I could see someone with depression believing that covid is the cause of their symptoms

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I wonder how our member zoodles is doing, well I hope. He was back to work IIRC but the C-19 didn't blow over like a case of the sniffles. Similar with one of his co-workers.

If smoking can permanently damage your lungs why would we think other respiratory attacks wouldn't?

True, there are those that milk things to avoid work but I think this is a little harder to fake with spirometers and oximeters etc.
 
nobbie48 said:
I wonder how our member zoodles is doing, well I hope. He was back to work IIRC but the C-19 didn't blow over like a case of the sniffles. Similar with one of his co-workers.

If smoking can permanently damage your lungs why would we think other respiratory attacks wouldn't?

True, there are those that milk things to avoid work but I think this is a little harder to fake with spirometers and oximeters etc.
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@Zoodles95 good question. We haven't had any hot tub posts in a while.
 
regder said:
Here's a sad ending, 'Dawson's Creek' Writer Heidi Ferrer Dies by Suicide After '13-Month Battle' With Long-Haul COVID
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Really weird stuff there. "Though Ferrer says she was never officially diagnosed with COVID, she shared that "a lot of us Long Haulers didn't test positive" for the virus.)" So maybe she had an unrelated condition? It's not like lyme disease that hides, they have a bunch of ways to test for it being active and ways to test if you had it in the past. If all of those are negative, is suspect you have something different. Maybe there is Covid 19-B in the wild and nobody it bothering to look for it (or they know it exists but can't monetize it so they don't care)?
 
GreyGhost said:
Really weird stuff there. "Though Ferrer says she was never officially diagnosed with COVID, she shared that "a lot of us Long Haulers didn't test positive" for the virus.)" So maybe she had an unrelated condition? It's not like lyme disease that hides, they have a bunch of ways to test for it being active and ways to test if you had it in the past. If all of those are negative, is suspect you have something different. Maybe there is Covid 19-B in the wild and nobody it bothering to look for it (or they know it exists but can't monetize it so they don't care)?
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That's interesting, missed that part.

This article says that she later did test positive, 'Dawson's Creek' writer Heidi Ferrer's husband details her 'American success story' life before tragic death. Couldn't find any mention of an antibody test to prove that she had it in the past. You're right, not conclusively Covid
 
Brian P said:
No joke. Friend of mine caught covid19 in February, and only went back to work in June.

No doubt there will be some others who play up their situation, but the real situations are out there.
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I'm not saying that nobody has extended covid impact. I am saying that in the absence of a positive PCR test, I am very suspicious that many of these people self-identifying as covid long-haulers had covid (or at least had covid as the root cause). When she brings up that many of the people in her facebook groups also never tested positive but she had stereotypical symptoms and then suicide, the case in the article leans further and further towards psycho-sematic illness/mental health issues (and also what you read on facebook can be actually physically harmful).
 
It will take scientists a while to figure out the long term effects of a COVID infection. Until that happens, my guess is there will be a good number of self-identified long haulers. If this is really a thing, people will game the system and make it harder for real sufferers to access support.
 
Mad Mike said:
It will take scientists a while to figure out the long term effects of a COVID infection. Until that happens, my guess is there will be a good number of self-identified long haulers. If this is really a thing, people will game the system and make it harder for real sufferers to access support.
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Even if it's not a game, there are a lot of illnesses of exclusion like lyme disease, fibromyalgia, etc that people may now attribute to covid. Sadly, medicine isn't at the point where we can make a conclusive diagnosis for everything.
 
GreyGhost said:
Even if it's not a game, there are a lot of illnesses of exclusion like lyme disease, fibromyalgia, etc that people may now attribute to covid. Sadly, medicine isn't at the point where we can make a conclusive diagnosis for everything.
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You're obviously not watching the right TV medical dramas.
 
Since every COVID thread seems to be getting shut down I didn’t want to start a new one for this…

www.thestar.com

Two travellers from U.S. fined $20,000 each for fake vaccination documents

TORONTO - Two travellers who arrived in Toronto from the United States have been fined for providing fake COVID-19 proof of vaccination documents and lying about pre-departure tests.
www.thestar.com www.thestar.com

Wonder what the chances are of collecting on that?
 
mimico_polak said:
Since every COVID thread seems to be getting shut down I didn’t want to start a new one for this…

www.thestar.com

Two travellers from U.S. fined $20,000 each for fake vaccination documents

TORONTO - Two travellers who arrived in Toronto from the United States have been fined for providing fake COVID-19 proof of vaccination documents and lying about pre-departure tests.
www.thestar.com www.thestar.com

Wonder what the chances are of collecting on that?
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Many state courts have adopted the Uniform Enforcement of Foreign Judgments Act last i heard. This means you could file a judgement with a U.S. court if you won a decision in another country. Once it's recognized it's legally binding in the U.S.
 
we have a friend that spent 9weeks in hospital , trying to take him off the ventilator . He's been home a month now , but far from right. Still he's 60 and wasn't an athlete to start, but in been 3 months of craplife.
 
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