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I've noticed that I'm more comfortable turning right at the track. I can tell from my tire wear, how much I drag my knees, and just an overall feeling of control in the corner. It's not just that all the tracks I run are clockwise tracks, though that doesn't help.

Is it common to favour one direction over the other, kinda like being right-handed? Are there exercises or anything that anyone can recommend to help me overcome my left turn weakness?
 
I was the opposite, much better L than R. Big problem was my wrist positioning on the throttle, now i suck equally both L and R haha.
 
I've noticed that I'm more comfortable turning right at the track. I can tell from my tire wear, how much I drag my knees, and just an overall feeling of control in the corner. It's not just that all the tracks I run are clockwise tracks, though that doesn't help.

Is it common to favour one direction over the other, kinda like being right-handed? Are there exercises or anything that anyone can recommend to help me overcome my left turn weakness?
2 main reasons, the throttle is on the right changing your body positioning on that side, your problem can be corrected/regulated by resting your middle finger :)eek:nefinger) on the brake lever. The second reason if you are or were a street rider you tend to favor the right so you don't blow a corner and go into an incoming car, lefts tend to be sweepers. Sometimes it has to do with your foot positioning, if you have some obstruction in any of the foot pegs like a small hose or the master cylinder your foot will pivot differently.

Got this from another forum:
first make sure your not putting any weight on your arms and you have your core set. then let the outside of your wrist on the throttle slide out so that you are holding it like screwdriver with it kinda running down the center of your palm.
first pic. is the wrong way the the second is the right way





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When I started riding, my lefts were better than my rights. When I tried to consciously correct this, my rights got better than my lefts. I tracked down my body posture to the following important items:
1) Stay light on the bars. Connect to the tank with your legs so that you can feel your hands floating above the bars.
2) Head, shoulders & intent: look where you want to go (duh). *Know* that you're committed to going there. But what helped even out my turns and made it -click- was making sure that your shoulders follow your head and open up to the turn, too. For instance, let's say on lefts you look left and turn your shoulders left so it feels good and you 'memorize' that good position. On rights you may be looking right but unconsciously turning your shoulders left because it's the 'good turn feeling' - but on a right-hander it actually ends up cramping your positioning.
3) Pay attention to your body symmetry. This was/is the biggest thing for me (and I suspect many people), because we drive cars with right-hand shifters and use computers with right-hand mice and do lots of things that place asymetrical loads - my right side is a lot more tense than my left. As a result, I was used to/more prone to bending my spine to the right than to the left. This meant that I could lean down and kiss my right-side mirror real good - but on lefts my body still 'wanted' to bend right, meaning over-lean.

pay attention to all of the things your body is doing when turning right; compare to what your body does when turning left. Primary objects of attention: hips, spine, head, shoulders, feet. Go turn-y more better
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I can relate in some sense.
A few years ago when I had my 5.0 Mustang, I was much more comfortable powersliding/drifting while turning left a lot more than I did while turning right. Not sure why.

It had a locked rear end so it's not the case of the Chevys-only-turn-one-wheel issue that some stock Camaros have.
I haven't tracked yet, because my bike is my only mode of transportation for the time being, but right now my chicken strips are pretty even on my rear tire. I'm curious to know whether I will favor a side when I do take it to a track next year.
 
Nice pics ZX600! Really helps explain what you said.

I am at work right now and can say that I learned something today. :D
 
Just got back from marshalling at Cayuga, did not see a single person use this method when making right turns in the hairpin at turn 9.
 
I have no "problem" doing either but it definatly feels more natural turning right. In the dirt I find it easier to go left because I can use the rear brake. It doesn't help that for every left corner there's 5 rights.
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that it's because the steering wheel is on the left side of the car, so you can see better in that direction. :)

I can relate in some sense.
A few years ago when I had my 5.0 Mustang, I was much more comfortable powersliding/drifting while turning left a lot more than I did while turning right. Not sure why.

It had a locked rear end so it's not the case of the Chevys-only-turn-one-wheel issue that some stock Camaros have.
I haven't tracked yet, because my bike is my only mode of transportation for the time being, but right now my chicken strips are pretty even on my rear tire. I'm curious to know whether I will favor a side when I do take it to a track next year.
 
So I definitely had a death grip going on, but only with my left hand going through left corners. I guess the opposite was never an option through RH corners since I need to keep my right hand loose to control the throttle.

So I tried loosening up my left hand when turning left but I'm still not sure whether the death grip was the cause or effect of my left-turning "disability". When I'm hanging off to the right it feels completely natural and perfectly controlled, but hanging off on the left I feel like a passenger, the bike will do what it wants and I just have to try and hang on to it. Even when I "loosen up".

I'm wondering if I might have some muscular imbalance in my back/legs?

Anyways I'll keep reminding myself to loosen my left hand grip and maybe over time I will become just as comfortable turning left as right. I hope.
 
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So I definitely had a death grip going on, but only with my left hand going through left corners. I guess the opposite was never an option through RH corners since I need my right hand to control the throttle.

So I tried loosening up my left hand when turning left but I'm still not sure whether the death grip was the cause or consequence of my left-turning "disability". When I'm hanging off to the right it feels completely natural and perfectly controlled, but hanging off on the left I feel like a passenger, the bike will do what it wants and I just have to try and hang on to it. Even when I "loosen up".

I'm wondering if I might have some muscular imbalance in my back/legs?

Anyways I'll keep reminding myself to loosen my left hand grip and maybe over time I will become just as comfortable turning left as right. I hope.

Has anyone ever followed you around the track and commented on your riding posture? Next track day see if you can find some one to give you some pointers.
 
Has anyone ever followed you around the track and commented on your riding posture? Next track day see if you can find some one to give you some pointers.

My next track day is with Pro 6. They should be able to scrounge someone up to follow me if I ask ,right?
 
My next track day is with Pro 6. They should be able to scrounge someone up to follow me if I ask ,right?
That would be awesome, I thought I had good body positioning until I had someone video tape me while riding from behind "insert joke here" and only then I realized how much I sucked ***, since then I have improved a lot in speed and level of confortability and pretty much everything else....and also realized I have a nice *** :)
 
My next track day is with Pro 6. They should be able to scrounge someone up to follow me if I ask ,right?

90% of issues with cornering better one side over the other is related to how you position your toes/feet and place your butt. It's not rocket science!
I will be at the next/all Pro 6 days and with 5 minutes we can help fix most of the problems I've seen in 8+ years of teaching.
Feel free to come by the trailer and we can give you a few drills/pointers that help your weaker side get more comfortable. Or anyone for that fact!
Calabogie is a great track to work on issues in this area becasue it has 8 lefts and 12 rights. But we can also help at Mosport and Shannonville.
Just ask! Would be more then happy to help.
 
Thanks John. My next Pro 6 day actually isn't until Mosport in August after all, but I'll definitely look for you then.
 
Sometimes it has to do with your foot positioning, if you have some obstruction in any of the foot pegs like a small hose or the master cylinder your foot will pivot differently.
I am glad to see that out of all the **** i talked in this thread at least some of it was right :)
 
I've got a GoPro mount on the tail of my bike to record my body position to try to solve this problem. I'm also more comfortable with rights than lefts. I think it comes from doing Nelson too many times. I've also had my worst crashes in lefts. Not sure if the crashes were the symptom or the cause of the lower confidence in lefts.

Anyway, with the GoPro I've been able to see that my elbow height and tuck are different (lower on rights) and have been working on that with some success.
 
I definitly corner harder right then left... but havent ridden track, yet.
I thought it was because all those highway on ramps... sooo fun :)

Definitly helpful tips, thanks
 
Has anyone ever followed you around the track and commented on your riding posture? Next track day see if you can find some one to give you some pointers.
Holy CR*P what a difference a small change makes...

So I was at the Hotlaps day yesterday doing Shanny Long and I got Luke to follow me one session. It turns out I was tucking my left elbow in, almost locking it against my body in LH turns. It's amazing that I was unaware of it until he pointed it out. When I consciously made an effort to point my elbow out, everything just freed right up and I had a lot more room to lean, all the control in the world, awesome!

The most unbeliveable part is that I dropped 6 seconds off my time! I mean I knew I was leaving tons of time out on the track at every corner but I never expected to be able to put it all together in one day and chop my time down like that. I'm still just amazed at it all. 6 seconds!

Great day by the Hotlap guys BTW, hugely helpful and great communication all day.
 
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