Canada Post vs Amazon

[Wingboy]

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Placed two orders on Jan 22 Amazon product came from Moncton NB. Arrived the morning of Jan 24.
MC part ordered from Montreal was in the hands of the post office Jan 24. Tracking said delivery would be Jan 27, then Jan 28, then Jan31, then Feb1, now they say Feb 2. I'm not holding my breath.

 

[GreyGhost]

Placed two orders on Jan 22 Amazon product came from Moncton NB. Arrived the morning of Jan 24.
MC part ordered from Montreal was in the hands of the post office Jan 24. Tracking said delivery would be Jan 27, then Jan 28, then Jan31, then Feb1, now they say Feb 2. I'm not holding my breath.

A lot of Amazon.ca is delivered via CP. Luck of the draw whether CP gets it to you in a reasonable time.

 

[Gary]

Placed two orders on Jan 22 Amazon product came from Moncton NB. Arrived the morning of Jan 24.
MC part ordered from Montreal was in the hands of the post office Jan 24. Tracking said delivery would be Jan 27, then Jan 28, then Jan31, then Feb1, now they say Feb 2. I'm not holding my breath.

I ordered something (non m/c) from an online retailer in Montreal last weekend. Can Post delivered it on Wednesday.

 

[Priller]

It's not really a fair comparison. Amazon subsidises their shipping by making a cut of what you bought. CP doesn't have that revenue stream.

Also, if they don't ship via CP, my Amazon deliveries come via a minimum wage worker in a ratty (and likely underinsured) minivan via the local distribution centre full of other minimum wage workers. CP has a relatively well paid workforce handling a much wider variety of items, including letters that cost peanuts to send. The pay of the workers isn't the issue, it's the volume of workers you can allocate at that cost.

Compare CP to the private shippers, like UPS and FedEx. In those cases, I'll take CP ten times out of ten...

 

[Gary]

I met a guy that owns a courier gig, mostly amazon deliveries. He was looking for drivers. He pays them $900 / day. He stuffs them in a brand new van.
The driver is responsible for every cost related to the van. It must be fully insured. Gas, oil changes, tires, and anything else non warranty is up to the driver, and it's not negotiable.

 

[klr_guy]

I met a guy that owns a courier gig, mostly amazon deliveries. He was looking for drivers. He pays them $900 / day. He stuffs them in a brand new van.
The driver is responsible for every cost related to the van. It must be fully insured. Gas, oil changes, tires, and anything else non warranty is up to the driver, and it's not negotiable.

Approaching $250k to be a delivery driver?

 

[GreyGhost]

Approaching $250k to be a delivery driver?

Gross income. I think the guy made an error by putting maintenance on the driver for an asset of the owner. That's a recipe for getting the keys back to a van with a blown engine as the driver never bothered to get an oil change. Net income will be much lower (commercial insurance, lots of gas etc). Hourly rate may not be all that special. The numbers I have heard are in the ballpark of a few bucks per package delivered. These people would need to be delivering on the order of 500 packages per day.

 

[TwistedKestrel]

Gross income. I think the guy made an error by putting maintenance on the driver for an asset of the owner. That's a recipe for getting the keys back to a van with a blown engine as the driver never bothered to get an oil change. Net income will be much lower (commercial insurance, lots of gas etc). Hourly rate may not be all that special. The numbers I have heard are in the ballpark of a few bucks per package delivered. These people would need to be delivering on the order of 500 packages per day.

It's because they're "contractors" that way. Honestly I can't claim to know how Amazon exactly structured their delivery network in Canada, but they definitely did it this way on purpose.

 

[Priller]

It's because they're "contractors" that way. Honestly I can't claim to know how Amazon exactly structured their delivery network in Canada, but they definitely did it this way on purpose.

Just like celebrities who are 'shocked' when it turns out their clothing line is made by child labour in sweatshops, Amazon dodges responsibility by adding a firewall layer of subcontractors to their delivery model. That way they can claim ignorance when it turns out employment laws were broken or there's bad PR. "Wasn't us, Guv, we just hired the lowest bidder..."

 

[Gary]

Gross income. I think the guy made an error by putting maintenance on the driver for an asset of the owner. That's a recipe for getting the keys back to a van with a blown engine as the driver never bothered to get an oil change. Net income will be much lower (commercial insurance, lots of gas etc). Hourly rate may not be all that special. The numbers I have heard are in the ballpark of a few bucks per package delivered. These people would need to be delivering on the order of 500 packages per day.

Six days a week. Minimum 12hr days.
Insurance must be held and maintenance MUST be performed, or find work elsewhere.
It gets done. He claimed to have no issues.

 

[raginduck]

Gross income. I think the guy made an error by putting maintenance on the driver for an asset of the owner. That's a recipe for getting the keys back to a van with a blown engine as the driver never bothered to get an oil change. Net income will be much lower (commercial insurance, lots of gas etc). Hourly rate may not be all that special. The numbers I have heard are in the ballpark of a few bucks per package delivered. These people would need to be delivering on the order of 500 packages per day.

I work with amazon... not AT amazon... with amazon.
I know all of their 'last mile' carriers.. from big to small... and am familiar with the contacts with the drivers.
They are paid per package... some more than others... most driver deliver 120-150 packages per day. The estimate of a "few bucks" per package is high.
$900 a day.... I've never heard anyone being paid that much to do the home deliveries.

 

[crankcall]

$900 a day there would be no shortage of drivers , every pizza guy would hang it up immediately .

Could you imagine the chaos at the "preffered most super certified happy auto service " center doing Amazon private carrier vans. "I need two tie rod ends, an oil change and my 7 speed tranny is 5. "
" $32.25 , and just come back when the tranny is down to 3 speeds." " GM made 3spds for years , this is too complicated anyway."
"what about those tie roddy things??" " I safety wired 'em , your good till Monday"
And , the tea is ready! break time

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