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Can anyone give me some tips / information?

kyyylechunggg

kyyylechunggg

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Hi, i am a new-ish rider to the community and am 17 years old. I have wanted my motorcycle licence and a bike for the longest time i can remember. I have been riding bikes for a while, but i finally come to the point where i want to get a street legal one. I have recently bought a 2008 Honda CBR 125R off kijiji for a good price. The bike is pretty much brand new and comes with all the papers ( as well as certified ) and a couple small aesthetic mods done to it.

My parents arent too fond of bikes, but theyre slowly letting me get into it ( i have some relatives that ride ). My dad hates sportbikes ( just because they "look" dangerous, even though my 125 wont go TOO FAST ) and he would rather have me get a cafe racer or something like that.

I was wondering if any other young riders or older riders could tell me about when they first started out riding and trying to convince their parents to let them get a bike and what kind. Also, one of the other main problems is insurance. They are with Intact Insurance and might end up pairing me with them. So in conclusion i was wondering if you guys could give me pros on:

a 2008 Honda CBR 125R
How to convince them to let me ride ( insurance wise and safety )
How this is a big thing for me as a young adult

And i would only be riding around the neighborhood and to school, which is only 15 minutes away.


Thanks for any help / tips that anyone offers!
 
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Take a course and check insurance before you buy a bike.

125's can go faster than 80 kph loool.

parking lot practice at slow speed is good.
 
As a parent who rides I totally understand the hesitation from your parents. They are responsible for keeping you safe and it would be hard for me to let my daughters ride at 17 even though I currently ride. The issue in Ontario is insurance, you may want to just focus on getting your driving experience first before moving onto motorcycles.

All that being said, you have chosen the right bike a 125 will be fun to learn on.
My guess is that this will come down to where you want to spend your hard earned cash. Best of luck and happy riding.

BTW - I also loved bikes but waited until my 30's to pursue them just didn't feel ready until that point.
 
I don't know how intact will be for you with a 125, but it was awful for me.

22 turning 23, Male, Keswick Ontario.
Full G since 16, no tickets, accidents, claims, etc.
Took Safety Course last summer from learning curves.
Quotes this season for 250s and 300s were all north of 4500 bucks a year.
Quotes from other companies were around 2000/yr depending on level of coverage.

Take the course. Get quotes and go from there.
Might have to look elsewhere for insurance based on my experience, good luck though!
 
^^^ was going to say the same thing. A couple peeps on here have 125's. They go fast enough. @evon went all over on hers for gta tag. & @warriorvonbrown kept pace with my Shadow np. (Not saying much, I know)
I'm gonna say you gotta do what your parents want. They are freaked that if they ok it, and something happens, it's on them. As a parent, I get that. And I understand why I wasn't allowed to ride when I lived at home.
Show them you are responsible. Wear the gear. Don't be an idiot on the bike. You don't need to impress anyone. Take a course.
Curious, how good of a deal?

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If you've already bought the bike, well, you may have put the cart before the horse on a few of your concerns. ;)

But, as was mentioned, start calling for insurance quotes NOW. Tell them you have your M2 and the safety course completed, trust me, with only an M1 and no safety course the prices are going to seem quite high, and the motorcycle safety course is money VERY well spent for a new rider. Edit: Yes, as Joe mentioned above, GET GEAR. Don't be a squid, and having proper riding gear will help prove to your parents you're serious about safety. Second hand gear can be had much cheaper, check Kijiji or a Re-Gear store.

Assuming you get quotes you can afford (again, cart before the horse, but at least you bought a reasonable beginner bike, but at 17 insurance is still going to be very steep for you), signup for a motorcycle safety course NOW (they fill up FAST in the spring), get your M1 NOW (a prerequisite for the MSC and you need it for a minimum of 60 days before you're even eligible for the M2, safety course or not) and then work on the rest of your issues...convincing your parents, etc. Having proof you've signed up for the motorcycle safety course may help alleviate some of their concern.

And I know you think you're only going to ride it to school, etc...but don't kid yourself. ;)
 
kyyylechunggg said:
Hi, i am a new-ish rider to the community and am 17 years old. ...

I was wondering if any other young riders or older riders could tell me about when they first started out riding and trying to convince their parents to let them get a bike and what kind.
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There's not many arguments that will convince a concerned parent to give their blessing to their 17 year old male offspring ride a vehicle that we all have to admit can be pretty dangerous and which has terrible optics when it comes to injury and fatality statistics. Parents hate these things for a reason.

To play the devil's advocate for a moment, you might think about factoring their feelings and concerns into the equation before hopping on the bike at your current age. Maybe waiting a few years would de-stress and let your mum sleep at night. Something to think about, anyway.

Can't offer much help with insurance; most riders, new and experienced alike are getting hosed to some degree these days. At least you're starting off right by looking at a small-displacement bike. As a 17y/o male I think you're likely still going to get a rough ride from the industry. Get quotes, see what can be done.

Above all, gear up. ATGATT; dress for the slide, not the ride.
 
PrivatePilot said:
If you've already bought the bike, well, you may have put the cart before the horse on a few of your concerns. ;)

But, as was mentioned, start calling for insurance quotes NOW. Tell them you have your M2 and the safety course completed, trust me, with only an M1 and no safety course the prices are going to seem quite high, and the motorcycle safety course is money VERY well spent for a new rider. Edit: Yes, as Joe mentioned above, GET GEAR. Don't be a squid, and having proper riding gear will help prove to your parents you're serious about safety. Second hand gear can be had much cheaper, check Kijiji or a Re-Gear store.

Assuming you get quotes you can afford (again, cart before the horse, but at least you bought a reasonable beginner bike, but at 17 insurance is still going to be very steep for you), signup for a motorcycle safety course NOW (they fill up FAST in the spring), get your M1 NOW (a prerequisite for the MSC and you need it for a minimum of 60 days before you're even eligible for the M2, safety course or not) and then work on the rest of your issues...convincing your parents, etc. Having proof you've signed up for the motorcycle safety course may help alleviate some of their concern.

And I know you think you're only going to ride it to school, etc...but don't kid yourself. ;)
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hahaha yeah, i think i bought the bike too early, but i honestly couldnt resist! :iconbiggrin: I do have my gear already, and i have even told them i would pay for the course myself.

Honestly, for the rest of the year i really only would ride it in the neighborhood and around with my other riding buddy. But later in the year i would "only ride to school" yes :cool:
 
Joe Bass said:
^^^ was going to say the same thing. A couple peeps on here have 125's. They go fast enough. @evon went all over on hers for gta tag. & @warriorvonbrown kept pace with my Shadow np. (Not saying much, I know)
I'm gonna say you gotta do what your parents want. They are freaked that if they ok it, and something happens, it's on them. As a parent, I get that. And I understand why I wasn't allowed to ride when I lived at home.
Show them you are responsible. Wear the gear. Don't be an idiot on the bike. You don't need to impress anyone. Take a course.
Curious, how good of a deal?

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Thanks for your tips. My dad has ridden when he was younger, so he is still sorta into the idea, but yeah i get it, parents should be freaked about bikes. Also, i do plan on getting Hi-Vis stuff just because its a lot safer for me. Whenever i ride my dirtbike, i always show that i ride safe and i talk to them about how cautious i can be and etc..

The bike was $1,900, but it came certified, with a safety, all the papers for the bike, low km's, and a few added aesthetic mods to the bike
 
dnicholson1021 said:
I don't know how intact will be for you with a 125, but it was awful for me.

22 turning 23, Male, Keswick Ontario.
Full G since 16, no tickets, accidents, claims, etc.
Took Safety Course last summer from learning curves.
Quotes this season for 250s and 300s were all north of 4500 bucks a year.
Quotes from other companies were around 2000/yr depending on level of coverage.

Take the course. Get quotes and go from there.
Might have to look elsewhere for insurance based on my experience, good luck though!
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How awful might i ask? My parents have been with Intact for a couple years now and apparently they get good rates with the loyalties and stuff like that.
I am turning 18 in just a couple months, would you know of any insurance companies that would give me an okay quote? Also who are you with? Thanks
 
Blackfin said:
There's not many arguments that will convince a concerned parent to give their blessing to their 17 year old male offspring ride a vehicle that we all have to admit can be pretty dangerous and which has terrible optics when it comes to injury and fatality statistics. Parents hate these things for a reason.

To play the devil's advocate for a moment, you might think about factoring their feelings and concerns into the equation before hopping on the bike at your current age. Maybe waiting a few years would de-stress and let your mum sleep at night. Something to think about, anyway.

Can't offer much help with insurance; most riders, new and experienced alike are getting hosed to some degree these days. At least you're starting off right by looking at a small-displacement bike. As a 17y/o male I think you're likely still going to get a rough ride from the industry. Get quotes, see what can be done.

Above all, gear up. ATGATT; dress for the slide, not the ride.
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Yeah, i can see how worried most parents get when their kids start talking about riding these so called "death machines". Then again, i get jealous when i hear other parents encouraging their kids to get bikes:angry3:

I will take that into consideration, yes

I wouldnt expect much help in the insurance department anyways, just trying to find out the average quote that most new 17 year old riders get in the ontario region.
 
OP - with your age, insurance will be a pain - that combined with your parents objections may render your desire to ride on the streets futile.

My suggestion would be to ride offroad, unplated for a year or 2? You can even rent dirt bikes at places like Ganaraska. See if riding is for you to begin with.

$1,900 for a 2008 CBR125 is way too much btw. I see them listed as low as $1,100 from that year. And that's just the asking price.
Then again, smart choice for a first bike if you're worried about insurance cost.
 
Parents will respond to responsibility. In the next few months establish some routines around the house without being asked..garbage, tidying up etc. Bike wise, if you bought already, wash it once a week regardless of use. Shows you will take good care and it's a good practice anyway.

Talk to them about how you plan to practice in parking lots(and really practice) at low speeds. Tell them why, that you want to build your skill, not just race out for the thrill of the ride.... Not only will this help convince your parent, it will establish good habits and might save you down the road.

Ride safe...
 
When I got my bike I never asked for permission, but then again I didn't live with my parents. Whenever my pops would come visit me, he'd tell me to get rid of the death machine. He kept saying that for years but he gave up.

In your case you can do things gradually, just have the bike sitting there a year or so before you start to ride it. Foot in the door technique. Just be careful & you should be fine.
 
kyyylechunggg said:
How awful might i ask? My parents have been with Intact for a couple years now and apparently they get good rates with the loyalties and stuff like that.
I am turning 18 in just a couple months, would you know of any insurance companies that would give me an okay quote? Also who are you with? Thanks
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it was 4000-4500/yr pls for CBR250R, Ninja 250, CBR300R, and Yamaha R3 through intact last year when i was 21 turning 22, m2, full g since 16.

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