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Brembo fun fact of the day

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Once upon a time, bigpoppa had the good fortune to speak to an Italian engineer who worked for brembo on the interwebs, I inquired and was surprised to learn that even their basic, entry level 'bybre' hardware installed on cheap, entry level made in india KTMs are in fact designed, built and tested to the exact same rigor/standards and specifications as their higher end braking components.

Was surprised to say the least.

Went through my social media to see if I could find record of said conversations, but alas it was a while ago and I could not
 
bigpoppa said:
Once upon a time, bigpoppa had the good fortune to speak to an Italian engineer who worked for brembo on the interwebs, I inquired and was surprised to learn that even their basic, entry level 'bybre' hardware installed on cheap, entry level made in india KTMs are in fact designed, built and tested to the exact same rigor/standards and specifications as their higher end braking components.

Was surprised to say the least.

Went through my social media to see if I could find record of said conversations, but alas it was a while ago and I could not
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As with all things on the web “proof or it didn’t happen”

Jokes aside I’m not surprised. Value would be in knowing the parts of equal value that you can get/use at reduced cost


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Tested to the same standards in terms of reliability and fail rate I am assuming.
That's good to know but hopefully no one reads this as Bybre brakes = Brembo brakes.
Quality and performance are two difference things.
 
killvino said:
Tested to the same standards in terms of reliability and fail rate I am assuming.
That's good to know but hopefully no one reads this as Bybre brakes = Brembo brakes.
Quality and performance are two difference things.
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It's like the difference between 'made in Brazil' Pirellis and 'made in Europe'. Same specs, but built to a price point.
 
SVeezy said:
As with all things on the web “proof or it didn’t happen”

Jokes aside I’m not surprised. Value would be in knowing the parts of equal value that you can get/use at reduced cost


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Ya boy found the post in question, here is proof ;)

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GreyGhost said:
To be fair, that just says that ByBre are tested using the same standards. It doesn't say that the design/spec or performance are equal. Could be unintentional ambiguity or ESL. I can run the same test protocol but have different pass/fail criteria for different products.
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100%. "We use the same testing standard" does not mean "We use the same pass/fail criteria." (or the same materials, compounds, acceptable tolerances...) - just means we use the same ambiguous testing.

It also doesn't mean that every unit is tested, that the batch sizes test units are pulled from are of the same size, etc.

It's kind of a nothing statement.
 
To me, there's two different sets of testing criteria: safety and performance. The former will be more pass/fail, and be focused on things like resistance to heat without warping, compatibility with various pad materials, etc. The latter will be scored on a gradient, and focus on improving things like wear, mass, friction coefficients, improving feel, etc.

Considering the potential for a lawsuit exists at both ends of the market, I'm not at all surprised that Bybre gear is tested to the same standards for safety. It's probably very similar (and possibly identical if the EU has a standard) to whatever EBC, Galfer, PFM, Tokico et al test to.

As for performance, that's a whole other matter. Even within the Brembo brand, there's a pretty broad range of price and performance options, from the Serie Oro discs and OEM master cylinders up to the WSBK-spec gear. I'd be curious how the Bybre stuff compares to the bottom tier Brembo, and how much they tack on just to get an 'o' in the logo...
 
And if we're building to a pricepoint and to build a pass/fail scale... are we also building for longevity, or just throwing that out the window?

Totally get your point on performance. Just like bicycle days as a kid when you go from a bike with a Shimano Altus derailer to a bike with a Shimano Deore derailer. Sure both say Shimano and both do the job. Shimano probably does the same "does it shift" test on both of them. But **** me, one does the job soooo much better than the other.
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