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Boat insurance holey @#%@...

basmn

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With most asholes on the road in cages (those i refer to should be on the bus) , why is it so expensive for boat insurance...little traffic on lakes, no stop signs or lights to run...most usage is low compared to auto....
Has anyone found pleasure Craft insurance under $400/yr ?????
Boat in question..16 ft aluminum fishing boat...
Value aprox 25g's
 
Never owned a boat so I'm not familiar with what boat insurance covers. I have been out a lot with father-in-law, who is a life long boater (navy, sail, inboard, outboard, pontoon etc). He says he has never seen it this bad on the water in his life. As it got worse he continued to downsize until he is now at the point of giving it up all together. You can tell that he hates it now. Watching him drive he is constantly shaking his head.

I am guessing its like every other toy. Most people that can afford it shouldnt be allowed to.
 
We're at $501/yr brokered with Lawrie for a Limestone 20, valued at $30k. Couldn't find anything for less than $500, but also had difficulty getting the marine surveyor to forward the inspection, so didn't get quotes from a few places.
 
No doubt the wife of that dufus from Dragon's Den didn't help. They say the boat she hit had no lights on but with liquor and money involved who knows....
 
I can only imagine that with COVID a lot of newcomers to the hobby joined and had multiple claims.

And I don’t know poo about boats but…

B - break
O - out
A - another
T - thousand

Not cheap to fix when idiots hit rocks or other stationary objects.

Or when they fall off trailers.
 
Look up the number of deaths on lakes and why boat opp always ask if you have liquor before even asking for your licence.
 
Approx deaths / yr
Auto 31000
Boat 600
My freaking car insurance is cheaper
 
My auto company quoted me $800 for the boat...so yes my car insurance is cheaper
 
Approx deaths / yr
Auto 31000
Boat 600
My freaking car insurance is cheaper
Not quite that simple. Need to divide by the number of vehicles and claim size to get rate. Lots of boat wrecks with a half dozen or more people getting damaged.

How much power? We have the tinnie insured with our home insurance through tdmm. They only do up to 30 hp (and iirc also age length limits) and but it is ~$100 a year for theft plus liability.
 
FYI....boat ins was extremely expensive 10 yrs ago

IIRC I paid about $500 a year for insuring an older 25' Chris Craft cruiser at the narrows in Orillia. We got out about then but I was been thinking of getting back in. As far as insurance goes I thought some house policies covered small fishing boats with modest power, possibly 25 HP.

We got out about then but I was been thinking of getting back in. However there are a number of reasons i don't feel like I'd enjoy it as much as back then, 15 years ago.

I enjoy cruising. If I wanted to drink and soak up sun I could do that in my back yard.

I don't know what prices are like but new ones are multiple six figures and I hear hard to find. Used boats can be money pits.

On the water it was half decent back then but there were occasional incidents of boating snobbery and self importance, particularly at the locks. With a lot of newcomers I expect the situation to be far worse.

With a small cruiser gas will be a serious cost. A litre a mile at $2.50?? Marina fees won't be cheap if you can find a spot.

My wife commented that we don't see a lot of boats being trailered as we did a few decades ago. Is that because of unreasonable tow limits on cars, lack of storage at home or too many impatient drivers?

Investment value for boats is not good, one of the most expensive toys around. If the economy tanks, boats are expensive to store and they still have to be insured to protect the boatyard. It's not like a M/C that can be shoved into a corner of a garage. Even a small runabout takes a lot of room. A 16 footer is closer to 19 feet with the motor attached and motors aren't light. The trailer tongue adds another few feet to the front of the package.
 
I've always considered getting a boat...but...I'm too practical with my money.

Wife isn't into it. And I don't think getting a boat is a sound idea when you've never really been exposed to it outside of a few rides here and there with friends.

Maybe a SeaDoo is a good way to start into that path. Pricing is insane right now so won't be touching those.
 
I've always considered getting a boat...but...I'm too practical with my money.

Wife isn't into it. And I don't think getting a boat is a sound idea when you've never really been exposed to it outside of a few rides here and there with friends.

Maybe a SeaDoo is a good way to start into that path. Pricing is insane right now so won't be touching those.
Be careful with the seadoo. Make sure it has enough legal seats for what you want to do. Lots of people get caught with the parents as driver and spotter and a couple kids on a tube. Not legal as afaik, no four seater seadoo exists.

We bought a tinnie with a floor and 30 hp. Not a bad boat. Can tow a tube, kneeboard, wakeboard. I have waterskied behind it as a proof of concept. It's not quite fast enough for me (water line in front of the boot). Kids or small adults should be able to ski behind it.
 
Be careful with the seadoo. Make sure it has enough legal seats for what you want to do. Lots of people get caught with the parents as driver and spotter and a couple kids on a tube. Not legal as afaik, no four seater seadoo exists.

We bought a tinnie with a floor and 30 hp. Not a bad boat. Can tow a tube, kneeboard, wakeboard. I have waterskied behind it as a proof of concept. It's not quite fast enough for me (water line in front of the boot). Kids or small adults should be able to ski behind it.
What about those sleek SEADOO boats? They look like a good starter boat.

Your comment sparked a memory from what I was looking at over the weekend...4 person SEADOO...

 
What about those sleek SEADOO boats? They look like a good starter boat.

Your comment sparked a memory from what I was looking at over the weekend...4 person SEADOO...

Seadoo boats are fine. I have friends with them. On the upside, unless you try very hard, it is almost impossible to swamp them. I highly dislike driving them. That may be because of too many hours in conventional boats. Handling on the jet boat is far different. Active steering in neutral I hate but some people like. Jet pump is running whenever engine is running. They like to suck in ropes. If you want to bob around while swapping kids in tubes or whatever, kill the engine or the bleeping active steering will spin the boat over the rope, suck in the rope and stall the engine. Amazing /s

The FIL bought the boat he wanted for the cottage. It is an I/O but they set the engine really low for style. He chopped the throttle one day and hydro-locked it. When he bought it I told him to be very careful but oh well, it wasnt my bill to pay.
 
Be careful with the seadoo. Make sure it has enough legal seats for what you want to do. Lots of people get caught with the parents as driver and spotter and a couple kids on a tube. Not legal as afaik, no four seater seadoo exists.

We bought a tinnie with a floor and 30 hp. Not a bad boat. Can tow a tube, kneeboard, wakeboard. I have waterskied behind it as a proof of concept. It's not quite fast enough for me (water line in front of the boot). Kids or small adults should be able to ski behind it.
Tons of people learned to ski behind cedar strip runabouts with 30 HP. Now one needs 300HP. I knew people were getting fat but 10X???
 
Tons of people learned to ski behind cedar strip runabouts with 30 HP. Now one needs 300HP. I knew people were getting fat but 10X???
Well, if you want to win the dick measuring contest, wakeboard boats can have 600+ hp and use all of that at 15 mph pushing up a wall of water to destroy everyones shoreline.
 

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