Bicycle Wheelie

Deanmac · Sep 22, 2016

Just thinking, if I pulled a wheelie on my bicycle while riding down the street, could I get pulled for stunting and a Section 172? Bicycles are treated as vehicles under the HTA, so why not?

Riceburner · Sep 22, 2016

Not a motor vehicle and no lic. to suspend.

nobbie48 · Sep 23, 2016

Riceburner said:
Not a motor vehicle and no lic. to suspend.

Wouldn't they be able to seize the bicycle and suspend a licence to operate any vehicle for a week?

The court hearing would be interesting.

I am assuming the OP has some licence.

hedo2002 · Sep 28, 2016

A bicycle would NOT be included, the wording of the regulation specifies MOTORCYCLE. The other sections of 172 refer to "motor vehicles"

 driving a motorcycle with only one wheel in contact with the ground, but not including the use of lift axles on commercial motor vehicles.

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RockerGuy · Sep 28, 2016

I wheelie my bicycle all the time lol

AF4iK · Sep 28, 2016

How bout an e-bike? lol

LoneRonin · Sep 28, 2016

Riceburner said:
Not a motor vehicle and no lic. to suspend.

pretty much...I clearly remember a case where a dude was piss drunk and pulled over on a bicycle. In the end cops couldn't do anything other than charge him public intoxication under the Liquor License Act. However had he been on an e-bike since its motorized he could have gotten a DUI under the Criminal Code even though an e-bike doesn't require a license or insurance.

inreb · Sep 28, 2016

RockerGuy said:
I wheelie my bicycle all the time lol

This is what I wanted to know. I canoe at an angle. Why did I mention this? Because you can get an impaired charge in a canoe. Makes your bicycle wheelie kinda lame doesn't it?

RockerGuy · Sep 28, 2016

inreb said:
This is what I wanted to know. I canoe at an angle. Why did I mention this? Because you can get an impaired charge in a canoe. Makes your bicycle wheelie kinda lame doesn't it?

Do you have a lifevest?

PrivatePilot · Sep 28, 2016

inreb said:
Because you can get an impaired charge in a canoe.

Because a canoe is considered a vessel and falls under the rules of such even if it's unpowered in the end.

Bicycle still doesn't fall under the "motor vehicle" category though hence why it's excluded.

Lawn tractor or whatever, fair game for federal DUI same as an eBike however.

inreb · Sep 28, 2016

PrivatePilot said:
Because a canoe is considered a vessel and falls under the rules of such even if it's unpowered in the end.

Bicycle still doesn't fall under the "motor vehicle" category though hence why it's excluded.

Lawn tractor or whatever, fair game for federal DUI same as an eBike however.

I wonder if that applies to bath tubs?

nobbie48 · Sep 28, 2016

PrivatePilot said:
Because a canoe is considered a vessel and falls under the rules of such even if it's unpowered in the end.

Bicycle still doesn't fall under the "motor vehicle" category though hence why it's excluded.

Lawn tractor or whatever, fair game for federal DUI same as an eBike however.

How about the T bar at a ski hill since the rules are somewhat hair splitting?

Or coasting downhill on a skateboard because the vehicle is not powered by muscle?

EvilBeaver · Sep 28, 2016

RockerGuy said:
I wheelie my bicycle all the time lol

You must have thighs like a bodybuilder!

RockerGuy · Sep 29, 2016

EvilBeaver said:
You must have thighs like a bodybuilder!

Nope gear down real low then give er.

cycling · Oct 2, 2016

I jump logs, side walks, do all sort of stuff on a Mtb. Do me for stunting?
Can you see that going to court?
We all do stunts on skis/ snow boards, etc. Private property.

hedo2002 · Oct 3, 2016

cycling said:
I jump logs, side walks, do all sort of stuff on a Mtb. Do me for stunting?
Can you see that going to court?
We all do stunts on skis/ snow boards, etc. Private property.

For a s172 charge involving a motor vehicle, private property is NOT a defense, against a charge. You can be stunting on your motorcycle in a parking lot and still catch a s172 charge.

cycling · Oct 3, 2016

hedo2002 said:
For a s172 charge involving a motor vehicle, private property is NOT a defense, against a charge. You can be stunting on your motorcycle in a parking lot and still catch a s172 charge.

Thank you.

I was not aware that private property is not a defence.
However, when I am on my bike in the woods can anybody see me? Lol.

GreyGhost · Oct 3, 2016

hedo2002 said:
For a s172 charge involving a motor vehicle, private property is NOT a defense, against a charge. You can be stunting on your motorcycle in a parking lot and still catch a s172 charge.

If the private property is separated from public property by a physical barrier is that sufficient to avoid the charge? (ie. a gated parking lot with the gate closed). IIRC there was something about this before, but I am not sure if it was 172 related.

PrivatePilot · Oct 3, 2016

hedo2002 said:
For a s172 charge involving a motor vehicle, private property is NOT a defense, against a charge. You can be stunting on your motorcycle in a parking lot and still catch a s172 charge.

Hows that? As I understand it the HTA doesn't apply on private property, so farm trucks can operate with no plates and no insurance on private property but for one example...so how does HTA172 somehow apply?

Inquiring minds want to know as it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

nobbie48 · Oct 3, 2016

PrivatePilot said:
Hows that? As I understand it the HTA doesn't apply on private property, so farm trucks can operate with no plates and no insurance on private property but for one example...so how does HTA172 somehow apply?

Inquiring minds want to know as it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I'm not sure how HTA 172 relates but the law looks at the danger to the public and determines the risk regardless of whether the property is private or public. Even amusement park rides have to pass some inspection criteria.

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