Bazzaz or pc5
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Mr.Azim
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Depends what you intend to use it for.
Street? Both base models will suffice without the racey-like features.
Race/Track? Bazazz has Traction Control available.... but the other features are the same/comparable.
The PC/Baz unit makes changes to your map according to the Air-Fuel ratio's entered. But don't mistake this for a "I don't need to get it dyno-tuned". This feature is made to make changes due to atmosphere, elevation, temperature, etc... (Bazazz collects data, allows you to accept or deny later, while PCV makes live changes).
Whatever you buy, it's recommended to get a proper/custom tune for your motorcycle from someone with a good reputation... Auto-Tune is a nice feature if you plan on long distance travel or race/track use so you don't need to pay another $300+ for a tune when you make a simple change like adding a race air filter.
Street? Both base models will suffice without the racey-like features.
Race/Track? Bazazz has Traction Control available.... but the other features are the same/comparable.
The PC/Baz unit makes changes to your map according to the Air-Fuel ratio's entered. But don't mistake this for a "I don't need to get it dyno-tuned". This feature is made to make changes due to atmosphere, elevation, temperature, etc... (Bazazz collects data, allows you to accept or deny later, while PCV makes live changes).
Whatever you buy, it's recommended to get a proper/custom tune for your motorcycle from someone with a good reputation... Auto-Tune is a nice feature if you plan on long distance travel or race/track use so you don't need to pay another $300+ for a tune when you make a simple change like adding a race air filter.
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chiefswallow
Banned
http://www.flash-tune.com/?wpsc_product_category=2007-2008-gsxr1000 (if you need help picking which service you should get just ask, let me know what exhaust setup you got on the 07).
At a minimum you need to ditch the catalytic converter on your bike (for the uncorked ECU): http://www.dan-moto.com/DM_INT/suzu...08-k7-k8-cat-eliminator-pipe-product-623.html
ECU flash = way WAY more performance than you'd ever squeeze out of a bazzaz or power commander
ECU flash = way WAY more performance than you'd ever squeeze out of a bazzaz or power commander
Do you have some Dyno results to prove this?
chiefswallow
Banned
With a power commander you'd need Power Commander + SFM + Ignition Module to get anywhere near the power the ECU flash would give you, and then you'd still have whatever restrictions were in the stock ECU.
Here's one for the 09 1k, just as an example.
I'm sure on the gixxer forums there's tons of examples.
http://www.flash-tune.com/?wpsc_product_category=2007-2008-gsxr1000 (if you need help picking which service you should get just ask, let me know what exhaust setup you got on the 07).
At a minimum you need to ditch the catalytic converter on your bike (for the uncorked ECU): http://www.dan-moto.com/DM_INT/suzu...08-k7-k8-cat-eliminator-pipe-product-623.html
ECU flash = way WAY more performance than you'd ever squeeze out of a bazzaz or power commander
I would flash it but once its done no way to put back to stock, it will be for sale when finished so i might go with oxygen sensor as autotune and fuel unit for map adjustment. It has full titanium aftermarket pipes with plug for sensor before canister, right side single silencer. I dont think there was catalytic ever on this bike from factory, correct me if im wrong.
chiefswallow
Banned
The 07 comes with a catalytic converter, otherwise they wouldn't sell the midpipe to eliminate it
It could be that the titanium pipes you bought came with a catalytic eliminator pipe, which makes sense if you have a spare bung for an O2 sensor 
They can flash it back to stock whenever you want, and there's no charge to get that done (other than shipping). If you're planning on selling the bike a power commander is a better choice, easy to remove.
With a power commander you'd need Power Commander + SFM + Ignition Module to get anywhere near the power the ECU flash would give you, and then you'd still have whatever restrictions were in the stock ECU.
Here's one for the 09 1k, just as an example.
I'm sure on the gixxer forums there's tons of examples.
It's pretty easy to make dyno sheets say ANYTHING you want.
chiefswallow
Banned
He asked for a dyno chart, that's why I posted. I know you can make them say anything. This was done back to back with stock ECU, then flash tuned ecu (with +500 on the limiter), then stock ECU again, just to make it as fair a comparison as possible. It should be pretty accurate to real world results.
