Am I the road rage A for honking?

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Coming up to a red light in the middle lane, lots of room 10-20m, person stopped dead in the passing lane decides it's too full,
and cuts 12m off of my stopping room as they slowly amble up to the light.
I have to hit the brakes harder, and give them a toot on the horn as well.
This is in a big blue minivan, with the low beams on, so it's harder to miss than the bike.

So, am I in the wrong for honking? Should I have just not cared, since I managed to stop in time?
Or should I try to make the person aware of their mistake?


Same day going out of the school parking lot, where people are dropping their kids off, at the red light, it begins to change,
and two guys are stuck in the intersection, since there isn't room for them to proceed.

One gets room they start to move, light changes, and a third meanders up through the red, and gridlocks the intersection where I'm trying to turn.
So now I have to move to the right to turn left, and get around him with students crossing, and traffic in the right lane, that might be going through.

So he got a polite toot toot and a big thumbs up. Where do people come up with excuses to do this, and am I in the wrong again?
 
If you watch third world traffic videos you'll note tooting is omnipresent. I would posit our downward spiralling economy suggests tooting in traffic will become the norm. I think you're ahead of the curve, will feel normal soon enough.
 
I have learned that an ******* will always be an ******* regardless of honking - so unless there are physical consequences that will remind them in the future, there will be no change. Physical consequences are also not worth it so just move on, it isn't your job to police the city through your horn.

State of mind, I find that when I leave my house and decide that I am just not going to care about any *******, I arrive to my destination in peace and happy. In the other hand when i leave my house with the "I am going to prove everyone else wrong" mentality, I arrive stressed and ****** off (kind of like GTAM) so you decide how you want to arrive at your destination.
 
I added a PA speaker with amp. And I play the 'ice cream truck' song. Everyone driving around me is happy. "Hello, woof - woof"
 
Welcome to Toronto
 
Back in 1867, when I took my drivers-ed class, they told me that the only good reason to honk your horn is to warn others of impending danger.

So, yes, if you blew your horn out of anger, it means that your anger management skills are slipping. You are letting the bad drivers of Toronto interfere with your emotional stability.

If it is any consolation, if the horn on your bike sounds like the roadrunner when it's teasing Wiley Coyote, it could not possibly have been a serious Type A road rage eruption.

edit: this is what hardcore road rage looks like: http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?197094-Florida-Road-Rage
 
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DejaVu said:
Back in 1867, when I took my drivers-ed class, they told me that the only good reason to honk your horn is to warn others of impending danger. So, yes, if you blew your horn out of anger, it means that your anger management skills are slipping. You are letting the bad drivers of Toronto interfere with your emotional stability. If it is any consolation, if the horn on your bike sounds like the roadrunner when it's teasing Wiley Coyote, it could not possibly have been a serious Type A road rage eruption. edit: this is what hardcore road rage looks like: http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?197094-Florida-Road-Rage
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Can you prove that there were cars in 1867? I'm having a hard time believing it. In any case, I felt there was impending danger. He had cut my stopping area in half. I did miss him by a couple of feet. After that, the flag resets, and I don't worry about it. If there's a second mistake, I prefer discretion and move as far away from that person as possible. I guess I'm not quite as cynical as some. I don't believe that everyone is out there making mistakes, simply because they're A's. Some must be like myself and want to learn to improve, don't they? If we don't let them know of a mistake, how will they improve? Is Apathy the way of the future. Nah, driverless cars is the way.


Edit: Must have been driving this:

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Did your license get grandfathered?
 
As I recall the honking horn was a way we self regulated as drivers.
If someone did something stupid and did not do the sorry wave then they got the horn and the longer the horn the more shame it brought to them.
Everyone would be wondering who is the moron that did 'that' for the other driver to be honking.

It was a built in system that kept ppl in check on the roads but now that is considered road rage and we are told to sit back and say nothing.
How is that working out? Is driving more or less stressful today vs. 20 years ago.
Perhaps one of the senior drivers/riders can share their views of being on the roads then and now.
 
Between the drunks and bias ply tires I'll take today's road situation but if I could pick a time it would be the sweet spot where Japanese cars came into there own but before the Japanese drivers.
 
inreb said:
Between the drunks and bias ply tires I'll take today's road situation but if I could pick a time it would be the sweet spot where Japanese cars came into there own but before the Japanese drivers.
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errr repeat that again, lol
We are not talking about driving int he 50's here...lol
We are talking about the drivers and not the technology.
 
-D- said:
errr repeat that again, lol
We are not talking about driving int he 50's here...lol
We are talking about the drivers and not the technology.
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I'm not talking about the "50s either. Tavern parking lots were full well into the '80s and the ornamental driver invasion started a bit later. I think that was the sweet spot.
 
matthew said:
The action is done. Honking won't help the situation.
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A speeder goes by a cop, does the cop say oh well no need to hand out tickets, lol
it was to prevent you from doing it again
also it created a way for ppl to acknowledge their mistake
 
-D- said:
A speeder goes by a cop, does the cop say oh well no need to hand out tickets, lol
it was to prevent you from doing it again
also it created a way for ppl to acknowledge their mistake
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riiiight
 
Honking is one thing. Then there is this.....

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/fight-bet...ured-on-video-camera-in-mississauga-1.2923338 :)

How embarrassing to have your friends and co workers watch this.

In California there have been a string of law suits claiming that such postings violate Personally Identifiable Information acts based on the definition of Unique Identifier - "Any information that can be used to distinguish one person from another and can be used for de-anonymizing anonymous data can be considered PII" - in these cases things like License Plate information. It will be interesting to see what happens when they come to court. Most legal analysts are saying not to post and shame.

I would have expected CTV to have redacted this type of information anyway.
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