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mimico_polak said:
@Priller the Scrambler doesn’t have spools or threaded holes for spools. The rear stand with the rubber pads isn’t good because the angle of swing arm is such that it slides off unless it’s perfectly aligned.

Centre stand is about $300 after tax. ABBA stand is about the same used, but need to find adapter for the bike.

No easy/cheap solution.

However I did find spools for it near Cambridge that have an expanding nut and can be used into the axle at the rear wheel. If that works out, I’ll just get front and rear stands.

I don’t expect to be pulling the wheel but if I keep the bike I want to replace the chain and sprockets.
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Oof. Two black marks against Ducati. First, not accounting for spools with the swingarm (my Aprilia came with spools attached!); second, charging $300 for a centre stand.

Looks like Evotech sells crash bobbins that double as spools (not sure of your exact model, but something like this: Evotech Paddock Stand Bobbins - Ducati Scrambler Classic (2015-2018)), but they're £45 on their website, so about $75 in Canadian Pesos. Still, those plus a cheap $99 track stand would be the lowest cost of entry. Bonus of a track stand is it'll work with most bikes, so is something you can keep if you do end up selling the Ducati. I can also speak to the quality of Evotech stuff, it's generally very good...
 
mimico_polak said:
@Priller the Scrambler doesn’t have spools or threaded holes for spools. The rear stand with the rubber pads isn’t good because the angle of swing arm is such that it slides off unless it’s perfectly aligned.

Centre stand is about $300 after tax. ABBA stand is about the same used, but need to find adapter for the bike.

No easy/cheap solution.

However I did find spools for it near Cambridge that have an expanding nut and can be used into the axle at the rear wheel. If that works out, I’ll just get front and rear stands.

I don’t expect to be pulling the wheel but if I keep the bike I want to replace the chain and sprockets.
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I'm with Jayell - for $300 just get the centre stand and be done with it. Trying to halfa$$ it with stands plus adapters etc. is just unnecessary.

The centre stand is also handy sometimes for parking in places where you're not sure you can trust the side stand not to sink.

Of course you first need to decide if you're keeping it.
 
Priller said:
Oof. Two black marks against Ducati. First, not accounting for spools with the swingarm (my Aprilia came with spools attached!); second, charging $300 for a centre stand.

Looks like Evotech sells crash bobbins that double as spools (not sure of your exact model, but something like this: Evotech Paddock Stand Bobbins - Ducati Scrambler Classic (2015-2018)), but they're £45 on their website, so about $75 in Canadian Pesos. Still, those plus a cheap $99 track stand would be the lowest cost of entry. Bonus of a track stand is it'll work with most bikes, so is something you can keep if you do end up selling the Ducati. I can also speak to the quality of Evotech stuff, it's generally very good...
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Black mark because of what a third party chooses to sell a center stand for?
Black mark for a swingarm design that requires a special stand? I guess black marks for Honda, BMW, KTM as well?

Personally I wouldn’t trust anything to hold up my bike that’s only held on by friction like bar ends. A rod should be a LOT cheaper than $75 if price is the driver.
 
Relax said:
Black mark because of what a third party chooses to sell a center stand for?
Black mark for a swingarm design that requires a special stand? I guess black marks for Honda, BMW, KTM as well?

Personally I wouldn’t trust anything to hold up my bike that’s only held on by friction like bar ends. A rod should be a LOT cheaper than $75 if price is the driver.
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Alright, easy there. Assumed the centre stand was a Ducati item, colour me wrong. $300 for a little bit of welded tubing seems steep to me, but it costs what it costs. As for not putting threading for spools in swingarms if they can't be lifted from underneath, every bike I've owned has had that built in except the Hawk GT, and that was a single sider. Maybe it's because they're mostly sport-oriented, but it seems an easy thing to include. If Honda, KTM and BMW also don't include the same things, then that's just as bad, I guess.

As for the Evotech spools, they have a bolt that runs through the axle, so rely on more than friction. I have the equivalent as sliders for the front on my track bike, it works quite well and has saved the fork bottoms in a lowside. There's few other manufacturers who make the same thing for slightly less with beefier bolts, too. The Ducabike one looks solid.

Either way, was just offering options. Bolt, spools, sliders, all work. All are cheaper than an Abba or centre stand, and will do the job just as well or better. I like working with a universal track stand, as it's something you keep through multiple bikes. But it's also what I'm used to, so YMMV, etc.
 
Relax said:
Black mark because of what a third party chooses to sell a center stand for?
Black mark for a swingarm design that requires a special stand? I guess black marks for Honda, BMW, KTM as well?

Personally I wouldn’t trust anything to hold up my bike that’s only held on by friction like bar ends. A rod should be a LOT cheaper than $75 if price is the driver.
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Black mark for being a stupid cheap decision every bike I have had has the bobbing holes in the swingarm unless it was a ssa. Someone decided they could save 20 cents by leaving them off.

Sent from the future
 
Scuba Steve said:
Black mark for being a stupid cheap decision every bike I have had has the bobbing holes in the swingarm unless it was a ssa. Someone decided they could save 20 cents by leaving them off.

Sent from the future
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Everything's a compromise to meet a budget. 20 cents here, 20 cents there, it all adds up.
That said, just because every bike you've owned had accommodations for spools, doesn't mean every bike has them. There are more without than you'd think.
 
@mimico_polak, did you buy the center stand yet?

Can't live without it.

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Jayell said:
Installing a new tire. While I'm at, remove the final drive, clean it up, regrease the splines. Also remove and clean the rear shock, and regrease the bearings, they become squeaky after a while.
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I figured you were either changing a tire or a brake job but with final drive out, I wondered.
 
Jayell said:
Installing a new tire. While I'm at, remove the final drive, clean it up, regrease the splines. Also remove and clean the rear shock, and regrease the bearings, they become squeaky after a while.
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For the splines do you use a high % molybdenum paste or grease?
 
Jayell said:
Yes, I do. Or at least I think it's the stuff? It's a forty five year old tin of grease that says "moly something something" on it. I'll add a photo tomorrow.
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Honda is so particular about the splines and specify high content moly paste and not grease. I was wondering if Guzzis were the same.
Sorry for the thread high jack MP
 
Sunday Rider said:
Honda is so particular about the splines and specify high content moly paste and not grease. I was wondering if Guzzis were the same.
Sorry for the thread high jack MP
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Here's the stuff, Molyslip grease with "Miraculous Molybdenum Disulphide Plating"! I bought it at Canadian Tire in the late seventies, I think. It's so old, there isn't even a UPC symbol, nevermind www. I don't know if it's suitable for my application, but it must be better than nothing, which is how the bike comes from the factory. I've seen the tiny tube of Honda grease at the dealer, thirty bucks!

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Jayell said:
Here's the stuff, Molyslip grease with "Miraculous Molybdenum Disulphide Plating"! I bought it at Canadian Tire in the late seventies, I think. It's so old, there isn't even a UPC symbol, nevermind www. I don't know if it's suitable for my application, but it must be better than nothing, which is how the bike comes from the factory. I've seen the tiny tube of Honda grease at the dealer, thirty bucks!

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Still available..........

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Jayell said:
Here's the stuff, Molyslip grease with "Miraculous Molybdenum Disulphide Plating"! I bought it at Canadian Tire in the late seventies, I think. It's so old, there isn't even a UPC symbol, nevermind www. I don't know if it's suitable for my application, but it must be better than nothing, which is how the bike comes from the factory. I've seen the tiny tube of Honda grease at the dealer, thirty bucks!

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Wow it is old. The last time i saw a king pin was in auto shop class in the 70s.
I have had the Honda paste for over 15 years now was around $9US back then. It is 60% molybdenum.
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