250 to a R6?

[silverbullet13]

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hey everyone,

This past spring i purchased my first ever bike. i opted for the 250, as it was the cheaper choice, and perhaps the smarter choice. anyways i am think of upgrading for the next season. i found a pretty wicked 09, Yamaha r6 for sale...i am tempted to purchase it. however, I spoke to someone who told me that the r6 is better for more experienced riders then myself....i don't know.....Is this a good bike for me, seeing as i only have one season experience on a 250? and if not, which bike would be a better choice? i think i would prefer a sports bike as my next bike. i am interested to hear how this bike reacts in contrast to other bikes of the same caliber, such as the CBR 600 or the Gixxer Thanks in advance to all who reply.

 

[LoneRonin]

I would stick with the 250 for atleast another season...I'm on my third season with over 30k km and trust me there is much more for you to learn and experience.

Apart from that look into something like a SV-650s, FZ6r or Ninja 650 if you want to upgrade to a sport bike with out going SS.

SS bikes are a whole lotta bike....not something to be taken lightly. All 600 SS bikes from the same generation are pretty much neck in neck but the R6 is known to be a peaky bike with all the power up top, which is not as ideal for a less experienced rider. Most street riding is done in the mid-range and its a little lacking there, but compared to the 250 it'll still be like night and day.

 

[jonpurdy]

It depends on you. If you got rid of the chicken strips on your 250 then feel free to upgrade. But if you're still not totally confident cornering on your Ninja then I'd ride it for another season or two until you really master it.

As others have said, a better choice for the street would be a Ninja 650, Yamaha FZ6R, or other sporty street bikes. The R6 is a true sport bike and has all the disadvantages (discomfort being the main one).

 

[06ravenS]

Go for it. I read so much stuff about starter bikes and this and that. This is my first season riding and I got myself an 06 r6s and love it. Can't give u a fare comparison cause I haven't ridden cbr, gsxr or kawi but if ss are the bikes u like then grab one. U have been ridin your 250 so the transition should be fine. Just know that everything on ur new bike will be amplified 10 fold. The exhilaration and breaking are a lot more powerful and sensitive. Have you taken a riding course?

 

[johnnie_c]

Go for it. I read so much stuff about starter bikes and this and that. This is my first season riding and I got myself an 06 r6s and love it. Can't give u a fare comparison cause I haven't ridden cbr, gsxr or kawi but if ss are the bikes u like then grab one. U have been ridin your 250 so the transition should be fine. Just know that everything on ur new bike will be amplified 10 fold. The exhilaration and breaking are a lot more powerful and sensitive. Have you taken a riding course?

Jump on it if it's a deal. I'm all for buying what you really want. Don't settle for the sv or fzr, etc. Just take it easy on the roads with the supersport .

 

[jukon]

Make sure you get insurance quote before you realize you can't afford the bike. But if you want to upgrade and can afford it, do it. Just don't do it stupid.

 

[sleezyray]

All i can advise to you is as follows.. at the end of the season or maybe now, do an honest review of yourself. Do you find yourself weaving in and out of traffic, do you obey traffic rules, do you speed exessively? Just be truthfull with yourself and you will find the answer. Only you can determine if a higher performance bike is safe for you. Personally, i have ridden a cbr 125 for three seasons and although i think i have mastered that bike, am not buying a supersports for three reasons, i will most likely go to jail for doing 200mph or something like that. secondly, as much as folks in here like to complain about cagers incompetence, beleive me, the **** i see sports riders do on the street is enough of a turn off for me that, i do not want to even be seen riding a sports bike. (some of you guys really ought to chill while riding) glancing over at the fallen riders section, you will notice how many fatalities were riders error. Just my opinion here. Thirdly, is a sports bike really the motorcycle type for you? As the years roll by, am finding that, my taste in motorcycles is evolving. I will settle with a motoguzzi 8v or an fg 800, sv 1000, and dual purpose bikes today. Three years back, all i thought of was a ninja of some cc. So just roll around a bit with the 250 until the whole bike scenery becomes familer and you understand just what kind of a motorcyclist you are. Read cycle canada, and the american magazines, i think it opened my mind as to what motorcycing is all about, you know, trips, socializing, and of course, two wheeling performance. Heck, most people loose interest altogether so just chill out a bit and enjoy the scenery a lil. My thoughts.

 

[optionfa]

If you're your confident and ready to continue learning to ride on a bigger bike do it, especially if its a good deal.

The r6 will be identical to any 600SS to you since you have limited experience on these bikes, only possible issue would be if you're a short guy as the 6 has the highest seat height. Go sit on it if you feel good pull the trigger. You will love the 09 its a good year for that gen r6, it sounds like you want a supersport if you have the opportunity I say go for it.

 

[bboySushi]

Agree with the chicken strips comment and reviewing yourself bit. If you are in any way having trouble handling the 250 (rough shifting, wobbly slow turns, slipping while braking) then you may want to hang onto the 250 for a little longer. If you don't feel like you can throw your 250 around then you definitely won't be able to throw a 600 SS around; it is much more cumbersome. Of course there's great things about SS too, I love my gsxr don't get me wrong. If you feel your skills are solid then go for it!

Don't let the deal thing faze you, you will ALWAYS find deals, especially for an R6/gsxr. It wouldn't hurt to check out the bike either though; you may discover something that turns you off (gf went to see a gsxr that was around 5k, but then saw that it wasn't in great shape as you could tell the bike has been doing burnouts, and been used roughly).

 

[dragenn]

Same here. I started on a sv650 and jumped to a 09 CBR600rr. There are tons of hassles that come with the bike, theft ( BIGGG PROBLEM ON NEWER BIKES ), higher maintenance, l rarely pushed the RPM past 10K ( speeding is a great way to force your to get rid of the bike and give someone else that deal your looking for ). Although when you do learn how to push it it can be a lot fun. THe irony is l miss the sv650. It's a far greater street bike when modded properly. Just look for one that has suspension work done. That bike l could push hard and still stay within the speed limit.

My next evolution will be a proper streetfighter or dualsport. Toronto streets are junk, cops are everywhere, and SS need to be ridden a certain way to be fun. Not really speeding but being aggressive. Reality is SS doesnt really lead to much inspired riding.

 

[NealT]

I'm on my second season with my 250, should end it near 30k kms. I agree with the sentiment to take another year, I have ridden a few other bigger bikes in the interim (650, 600, 750, 1000) and they are nowhere as flickable or easy to turn as the 250. One thing you discover is how much fun this bike is when you start riding it in "angry" mode, it just gets better. In my opinion a great bike to pick up the skills that will allow an easy transition to a SS or bigger horsepower bike.
I don't have any issues on group rides keeping up if necessary and at a more spirited pace i'm also still discovering more things to learn about this bike and my interface with it.

Things such as knowing the right gear for a good corner exit when at a more spirited pace can only be learned by time in the saddle.
Are you nervous about riding in the rain? braking in the rain? Riding without touching down at less than a walking pace? Turns are secure and clean? Able to hammer your brakes properly in the wet and dry? Able to brake and downshift fast and clean at the same time wet or dry? exploring or know how to do clutch less upshifts? all these skills are helpful on all bikes, more so on bigger horsepower bikes especially those skills related to control.

I think rider maturity is a big factor here, as others have said truly review yourself, your skills and your maturity and go from there...good luck.

 

[wearelopey]

watch keith codes twist of the wrist II.

If you can agree and put into practise most of what is displayed in that video, you can handle a bigger, sportier bike.

If however you watch it and think "wow, I never knew that", and then proceed further to get on your ninja and improve almost instantly because you've started to implement what you saw in twist of the wrist, then stay on your ninja 250 until you have a good grip on what is being taught in the above said video.

In short, you will be able to almost instantly enjoy a 600cc SS and appreciate the power after you've come to terms with what's in Twist of the Wrist II.

my 2 cents

 

[black06r6]

hey everyone,

This past spring i purchased my first ever bike. i opted for the 250, as it was the cheaper choice, and perhaps the smarter choice. anyways i am think of upgrading for the next season. i found a pretty wicked 09, Yamaha r6 for sale...i am tempted to purchase it. however, I spoke to someone who told me that the r6 is better for more experienced riders then myself....i don't know.....Is this a good bike for me, seeing as i only have one season experience on a 250? and if not, which bike would be a better choice? i think i would prefer a sports bike as my next bike. i am interested to hear how this bike reacts in contrast to other bikes of the same caliber, such as the CBR 600 or the Gixxer Thanks in advance to all who reply.

I had never ridden a bike this past april i got my m2 by doing the M1 exit. Spent 2 days on the 250 and really pushed myself. I had already purchased a 08 R6 with full exhaust and power comander. Id say go for it! You just need to really respect the throttle

 

[wearelopey]

Starting on a small bike is all about learning corner speed.

Will he be able to go faster in a straight line on a SS bike? Yes of course.

Will he be able to go faster through corners? I highly doubt it. Most likely you will pull in the clutch in some corners simply because the power and weight will frighten you a bit.

That is why you should really get good in the corners before upgrading to a bigger bike. So that when you ride a bigger, more intimidating bike, you will be able to navigate corners at an acceptable speed (ie leaned over a fair bit).

You will still learn on a 600, theres no doubting that. But becuase of the intimidation factor (more things can go wrong in a shorter amount of time), it is likely you will actually be worse on the 600 for a while...

Trust me, watch the video twist of the wrist II. The principles in it are way easier to learn on a smaller bike.

In the end though, its up to you.

I went from a ninja 500 to a sv1000s...

I was pulling my clutch in during corners for the first few months. Although I am better than I ever was on my new sv1000s, I firmly believe I could have learned all my skills on the smaller ninja 500 first. Then transferred them seamlessly to a bigger bike.

 

[thowe]

I just started riding this year, first bike is cbr600rr...I love it. If I had it to do, I'd buy it again. My SS is different..it has this thing called a throttle, so I can adjust how fast I go. Judging from other peoples posts on 600's being bad starters I think mine must be the only one you can control using this new tech called the throttle. Apparently all the other bikes only go from off to fast.

 

[Flashmonkey]

I just started riding this year, first bike is cbr600rr...I love it. If I had it to do, I'd buy it again. My SS is different..it has this thing called a throttle, so I can adjust how fast I go. Judging from other peoples posts on 600's being bad starters I think mine must be the only one you can control using this new tech called the throttle. Apparently all the other bikes only go from off to fast.

See...unless you've ridden a 250, you really shouldn't post your biased opinion on the subject matter all over the place. You're gonna confuse the newbs.

250's are easy as hell to ride. SS bikes: not as easy. Not that you can't learn to ride on a supersport, but it's a little harder and a little more awkward. If you want to upgrade, go for it.

Saying that you started out on an SS this year, loved it, and would do that again doesn't really help much because you have no actual basis for comparison.

 

[rich6969]

I just started riding this year, first bike is cbr600rr...I love it. If I had it to do, I'd buy it again. My SS is different..it has this thing called a throttle, so I can adjust how fast I go. Judging from other peoples posts on 600's being bad starters I think mine must be the only one you can control using this new tech called the throttle. Apparently all the other bikes only go from off to fast.

can i say PUTZ........ So you learned what ???? how to throttle it this year ??? Job well done...lets see you throttle your way into turns using some basic brake control.... U lead, i sweep...

 

[k-man69]

I just started riding this year, first bike is cbr600rr...I love it. If I had it to do, I'd buy it again. My SS is different..it has this thing called a throttle, so I can adjust how fast I go. Judging from other peoples posts on 600's being bad starters I think mine must be the only one you can control using this new tech called the throttle. Apparently all the other bikes only go from off to fast.

Ahh, sarcasm from a first year rider. Nice.

 

[thowe]

can i say PUTZ........ So you learned what ???? how to throttle it this year ??? Job well done...lets see you throttle your way into turns using some basic brake control.... U lead, i sweep...

My point was..although sarcastic...you can control the bikes speed. Everyone on the site makes it sound like the 600's are death machines. When the rider is the one controlling the speed not the bike. Cornering and braking require practice, no matter what bike your on. @rich6969 you can sweep, but I would bet you get bored and pass me, which would be nice, because I could watch what you do and learn a few things.

I do love my 600, and I would do it again, and its a perfectly valid opinion. I'll leave the sarcasm behind next time.

 

[LoneRonin]

My point was..although sarcastic...you can control the bikes speed. Everyone on the site makes it sound like the 600's are death machines. When the rider is the one controlling the speed not the bike. Cornering and braking require practice, no matter what bike your on. @rich6969 you can sweep, but I would bet you get bored and pass me, which would be nice, because I could watch what you do and learn a few things.

I do love my 600, and I would do it again, and its a perfectly valid opinion. I'll leave the sarcasm behind next time.

How about I lead....and you're only allowed to pass in the corners....Oh wait that might be a little too dangerous for public roads, but it'll definitely teach you a thing or two...

Sarcasm aside, I was at a demo ride on 2010 CBR1000rr, buddy I know was on the 600rr. I didn't stall once, he stalled multiple times from in the parking lot, to taking off at lights and making right and left turns. I've been riding a 250 3 seasons, he's first year on a 650r...

Its a very noobish mentality thinking all there is to control is the throttle....What about clutch and brakes? And EXPERIENCE??? Thats what really keeps you alive.

Thinking otherwise will just get you (I don't specifically mean you) laying face down on the pavement quick...

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