Menus no prices ???

@MacDoc no prices on online menus is common here in Toronto, but those restaurants always have prices on their physical menus.
We were having a couple of eat in burger combos at an indie spot and I asked what the ~$26 tab would be if we had ordered via Uber. I'm not an Uber client.

She couldn't tell us as ordering through Uber gets routed the Uber way. She did say it would be more.

I get the impression the customer pays substantially more and the restaurant gets substantially less. I don't think Uber drivers are rolling in dough either.

Sometimes a person just wants to get a feel for the market without going through quotation hoops. Theatre tickets are similar.
 
This trend while silly might reflect the volatility of the supply chain (goods and services) if menus had to be edited or reprinted on a regular basis that cost would be passed to the customer. Like many I typically expect pricing to be clear and present when handed a menu.
There was a restaurant in Texas that had a daily special pegged at the price of a barrel of oil. If oil was high, you got lobster. If it was low, you got a tuna sandwich.
 
We were having a couple of eat in burger combos at an indie spot and I asked what the ~$26 tab would be if we had ordered via Uber. I'm not an Uber client.

She couldn't tell us as ordering through Uber gets routed the Uber way. She did say it would be more.

I get the impression the customer pays substantially more and the restaurant gets substantially less. I don't think Uber drivers are rolling in dough either.

Sometimes a person just wants to get a feel for the market without going through quotation hoops. Theatre tickets are similar.

During the pandemic, I recall reading that those food delivery services were charging he restaurants something ridiculous, like up to 60%. Now when I look it up, it's "only" 30%. ut then the customer still has to pay the Uber Eats delivery fees and tips. We would call the restaurants directly and pick up ourselves, and usually found a round of desserts thrown in for free - I guess that's the least they could do for us saving them so much.
 
During the pandemic, I recall reading that those food delivery services were charging he restaurants something ridiculous, like up to 60%. Now when I look it up, it's "only" 30%. ut then the customer still has to pay the Uber Eats delivery fees and tips. We would call the restaurants directly and pick up ourselves, and usually found a round of desserts thrown in for free - I guess that's the least they could do for us saving them so much.

Bonus: By picking up the food yourself you only have to worry about the restaurant staff tampering with your food
 
After the pandemic, a lot of places have been moving to online menus accessed on your smartphone by a QR code printed on a card on the table, in lieu of a menu handled by lots of germy, grubby hands. I always thought it would be a great way to implement surge pricing that way - bump the price of appies up for the lunch crowd, lower it back down for non-peak hours, etc.

You know, real ethical stuff like that...
I understand the reasons behind the QR code thing, but surge pricing is not new, i.e. lunch menus and dinner menus at the same restaurant. However, I'm one of those who will ask for a real paper menu. I can't stand those QR code menus because I like to look at the entire menu while deciding what to order and that's very difficult on a small phone screen. And don't bring me a menu without prices or I'm going to waste everyones time asking the prices on every item I'm considering, because I want to be sure I can afford the meal before I order.
 
I understand the reasons behind the QR code thing, but surge pricing is not new, i.e. lunch menus and dinner menus at the same restaurant. However, I'm one of those who will ask for a real paper menu. I can't stand those QR code menus because I like to look at the entire menu while deciding what to order and that's very difficult on a small phone screen. And don't bring me a menu without prices or I'm going to waste everyones time asking the prices on every item I'm considering, because I want to be sure I can afford the meal before I order.
bring a tablet...

mind blown!

😁
 
bring a Ouija board

FTFY

And why TF should you be forced to bring a tablet to read a menu in a restaurant?

Waiter. What is the WiFi password? My tablet is WiFi only.

There's a dynamic surcharging for the restaurant's WiFi. It says so on the menu, top right.
 
During the pandemic, I recall reading that those food delivery services were charging he restaurants something ridiculous, like up to 60%. Now when I look it up, it's "only" 30%. ut then the customer still has to pay the Uber Eats delivery fees and tips. We would call the restaurants directly and pick up ourselves, and usually found a round of desserts thrown in for free - I guess that's the least they could do for us saving them so much.
The old standard was 30% of the food price was for the raw food so a restaurant made $70 on a $100 tab. If the delivery service got $30 it only leaves $40 for the restaurant to pay overhead and wages.

There was an issue with tipping if you wanted to tip the restaurant. The delivery company got the tip or at least part of it. So do you tip the driver on top?

Yeah. I pick up.
 
The old standard was 30% of the food price was for the raw food so a restaurant made $70 on a $100 tab. If the delivery service got $30 it only leaves $40 for the restaurant to pay overhead and wages.

There was an issue with tipping if you wanted to tip the restaurant. The delivery company got the tip or at least part of it. So do you tip the driver on top?

Yeah. I pick up.
I asked the head chef and the GM of a high end TO steakhouse what kinda margins were on food, they said about 7%. The real money is in alcohol sales.
 
I understand the reasons behind the QR code thing, but surge pricing is not new, i.e. lunch menus and dinner menus at the same restaurant. However, I'm one of those who will ask for a real paper menu. I can't stand those QR code menus because I like to look at the entire menu while deciding what to order and that's very difficult on a small phone screen. And don't bring me a menu without prices or I'm going to waste everyones time asking the prices on every item I'm considering, because I want to be sure I can afford the meal before I order.
And the wait staff rolling their eyes saying "If you can't afford to tip 20+% you shouldn't be eating out."

The math. A $40 meal used to bring a $6.00 tip at 15% Now that meal is $60 and would bring a $9.00 tip at 15%. But they want 20% of the $60 and expect $12.00.

David Peterson upped the PST rate saying, "We haven't had an increase for a long time." IDIOT. When you get a percentage of the take, your income goes up with inflation, GDP etc. Learn to manage your budget.
 
I asked the head chef and the GM of a high end TO steakhouse what kinda margins were on food, they said about 7%. The real money is in alcohol sales.
I'd add appetizers and desserts as money makers as well. A basic entree with no extras doesn't feed the bank.

We went to a local indie coffee shop because we liked the apple pie at $6 a slice. We later realized it was from Costco at $10 for the whole pie.

If all I want is the entree I try to be extra generous with the tip.
 
I'd add appetizers and desserts as money makers as well. A basic entree with no extras doesn't feed the bank.

We went to a local indie coffee shop because we liked the apple pie at $6 a slice. We later realized it was from Costco at $10 for the whole pie.

If all I want is the entree I try to be extra generous with the tip.
Lol we always order entree and water to drink.

Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk
 
One of the trends that bug me with menus is the omission of “$” in front of the price.
Eg: Hamburger and fries……..22

22 what? 22 goats? 22 rocks? From a purely legal standpoint without “$” I could just offer 22 of anything, no? And if there is no price listed like OP mentioned, then I could simply assume it’s free lol.

That's it, I'm carrying around a bunch of monopoly money with me from now on for when I end up in one of these places.
 
That's it, I'm carrying around a bunch of Canadian dollars with me from now on for when I end up in one of these places.
FTFY..i mean..we're getting there at this rate.

OH, maybe I should try paying with these next time??

IMG_8054.jpg
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom