sv650 ....gladius?

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After doing some research online i still cant find the difference between these 2....some people say theyre the same bike...some people say theyre not...

Are they the same bike? I know suzuki changed the name and theyre coming out with the new 2017 SV650(Dealership said around june they should get them)

Same engine or no?
 
Mechanically, yes, the Gladius, SFV650 and the 2017 SV650 use the same frame and engine, with minor updates. It is good that someone finally took the crayons away from the Suzuki stylists and brought back something that looks like the 1st gen SV.
 
Ash said:
Mechanically, yes, the Gladius, SFV650 and the 2017 SV650 use the same frame and engine, with minor updates. It is good that someone finally took the crayons away from the Suzuki stylists and brought back something that looks like the 1st gen SV.
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Supposedly 60 or so new parts in the engine and 70 or so new parts in the chasis:

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/11/2...torcycle-review-first-look-photos-eicma-2015/

I too could not get past the looks of the Gladius. This 2017 SV 650 though is a candidate for my next bike.
 
They call the SV a Gladius and everyone hates it and then they slap the SV badge back on it and it's an instant contender :lmao:

Classic crowd mentality. The "new" SV650 is boring as sin to look at. I know it's whole premise is "old is new" again but the way people have bought into it is almost embarrassing.

I hope it's a solid bike.
 
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Drennan57 said:
Suzuki is smart to have slapped the SV letters back on the bike. Who knew it would make such a difference in opinion.

They call the SV a Gladius and everyone hates it and then they slap the SV badge back on it and it's an instant contender :lmao:
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The problem with the Gladius was the ugly/unique styling; not the name.
 
Zoodles95 said:
The problem with the Gladius was the ugly/unique styling; not the name.
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I remember when it first came out, the name was a running joke to everyone. It ruined the image of the bike before it even went on sale.

An the new SV is hella boring to look at but people are claiming it to be the next cool thing. This bike could have came out in 2002 and it would fit right in.

I really have no issues with it just exaggerating my opinions like usual lol.
 
The bike is certainly nothing like the Yamaha XSR900 which combines fairly retro looks on the bones of the FZ09 while adding the updates seen on the FJ09. The SV650 seems to be all about that engine and the fact that as a package it really all works together. A real "do everything" sort of bike. I do ponder what Suzuki could do if they went after the Ducati 821 as a target. Totally different price point and bike though.
 
Drennan57 said:
An the new SV is hella boring to look at but people are claiming it to be the next cool thing. This bike could have came out in 2002 and it would fit right in.
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This is typical Suzuki. Styling and marketing wise, they tend to be 5 or 10 years behind the times. The 1st gen SV650 was a good looking bike, at least to my eyes. I didn't much like the looks of the aluminum framed 2nd gen SV, but it was the extreme supersport ergonomics that stopped me from buying one. It is like they were aiming the bike at people who wanted a GSXR but couldn't afford the insurance. The Gladius was just painful to look at (and that's coming from a 1st gen VStrom owner!), but it was the marketing images that sunk the bike for most riders. So they got rid of the name and the bubblegum colours and called it a SFV650. It is a real shame, because there is a fantastic engine in all of these models. So the return to the classic SV styling is welcomed by those that remember the 1st gen SV.

Suzuki is like the slow kid in class; you want to give them lots of encouragement when they finally get it right, even if the rest of the class has moved on to something else. The new SV is a good example, as they've totally missed the whole retro styling thing (Ducati Scrambler, XSR700). As a scrambler, this concept bike is halfhearted at best, but it does show what a good looking frame is underneath all that plastic crap that they put on the Gladius.
 
Ash said:
This is typical Suzuki. Styling and marketing wise, they tend to be 5 or 10 years behind the times. The 1st gen SV650 was a good looking bike, at least to my eyes. I didn't much like the looks of the aluminum framed 2nd gen SV, but it was the extreme supersport ergonomics that stopped me from buying one. It is like they were aiming the bike at people who wanted a GSXR but couldn't afford the insurance.
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Both 1st and 2nd have aluminum frames. SV650 is pretty damn far from super sport ergonomics. SV650S is a step in that direction but you'll notice a difference.
It was meant to be a cheap, do it all machine and it succeeded with immense sales to reflect it.
Then Suzuki started screwing with the concept.
 
DemonPig said:
Both 1st and 2nd have aluminum frames. SV650 is pretty damn far from super sport ergonomics. SV650S is a step in that direction but you'll notice a difference.
It was meant to be a cheap, do it all machine and it succeeded with immense sales to reflect it.
Then Suzuki started screwing with the concept.
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Fair enough, I forgot that the 1st gen was aluminum. And yes, in terms of ergonomics I meant the SVS model, since that's all that they've offered for the last however many years. I thought that Canada only got the naked 2nd gen SV650 for a year or two and had therefore discounted it, but maybe it was around longer than I remember.
 
I actually have a 2nd gen sv650s for sale. Rides like a beauty and like everyone says, it does everything well. Look in the classified section here on the forum or PM me if your interested.
 
Exactly, if effective motorcycle marketing lets you imagine yourself on the bike, then they were marketing the Gladius to Leapy McSilverPants. And since the Gladius seemed to be the spiritual successor to the original SV, anyone who didn't wear shiny silver pants was vaguely offended that Suzuki took away their favorite do-it-all bike and gave it to someone with light loafers.
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