Tank slapper - again... getting pretty ****** off now..

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e90, not beating the dead horse here, but ALL your problems would be caught in a safety. The loose chain, head bearings, fork bolts, triple tree, wheel shake.

If the tech actually rode the bike, it must have been a well practiced route, since you were holding his dog leash and white cane.....
 
kellen said:
we all know who safetied it.
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Yeah, people say this over and over again, but seriously, has anyone ever left there without knowing everything wrong with the bike? Even when I go there for minor things, I never get to leave without knowing exactly all the ways my bike is "****ed". Every time i get a safety done, he confirms exactly what I already know is bad on the bike, and tells me exactly what to watch out for to know when to get it fixed.
 
bobjohnson said:
Yeah, people say this over and over again, but seriously, has anyone ever left there without knowing everything wrong with the bike? Even when I go there for minor things, I never get to leave without knowing exactly all the ways my bike is "****ed". Every time i get a safety done, he confirms exactly what I already know is bad on the bike, and tells me exactly what to watch out for to know when to get it fixed.
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This place you guys are referring too is the wrong place, it was not Rosie this time.

As a matter of fact, I took my ex GF's 250 there to get the safety done because she was selling it and he did an amazing job, check and tightened the steering nut and ensured when turning the handlebars it had the proper feel, he adjusted the chain and even lubed it for her and did mine at the same time for free, plus everything else on a safety. I was very impressed with Ted.
 
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ZX600 said:
This place you guys are referring too is the wrong place, it was not Rosie this time.

As a matter of fact, I took my ex GF's 250 there to get the safety done because she was selling it and he did an amazing job, check and tightened the steering nut and ensured when turning the handlebars it had the proper feel, he adjusted the chain and even lubed it for her and did mine at the same time for free, plus everything else on a safety. I was very impressed with Ted.
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Yes -it wasn't Ted. Regardless it was a while ago and things could have changed/got worse in the two thousand clicks after it was done.
 
was it at least a Motorcycle Mechanic? or just a Mechanic?
 
Just to be clear I never named Ted. I was making a general reference. If someone doesn't do the job right and just collects the money, and issues a certificate, then that person/business does not deserve support.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Just to be clear I never named Ted. I was making a general reference. If someone doesn't do the job right and just collects the money, and issues a certificate, then that person/business does not deserve support.
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Personally, I appreciate the ability to get a dodgy safety. In situations where I know what is wrong and will repair it before riding, but I don't want to go to the effort of registering as unfit it is helpful. On the other hand, if, as in this case an obviously unsafe bike is passed along to an unsuspecting rider, that is a huge problem that must be corrected before someone dies.

Essentially, my view of duty of care is to inform the buyer of any defects and let them sort it out as they see fit. Not informing the buyer fails the test and must be stopped. Obviously this isn't how the process is written, interpreted or enforced, but it works better for me.
 
You can find examples of "questionable" practices anywhere. Recently, a very well known downtown dealer was caught deliberately disabling the kill switch on a customer's new bike... the explanation given was "new riders find it sticky, that's we disconnect them"
 
Acadian1974 said:
You can find examples of "questionable" practices anywhere. Recently, a very well known downtown dealer was caught deliberately disabling the kill switch on a customer's new bike... the explanation given was "new riders find it sticky, that's we disconnect them"
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That's the sort of behaviour that gets a dealer's franchise pulled, or results in the government shutting them down.
 
Acadian1974 said:
You can find examples of "questionable" practices anywhere. Recently, a very well known downtown dealer was caught deliberately disabling the kill switch on a customer's new bike... the explanation given was "new riders find it sticky, that's we disconnect them"
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Yeah? Where's the source? Or are you just making this **** up
 
e90 said:
Yeah? Where's the source? Or are you just making this **** up
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I'm the source.

Bike in question was recently purchased by a student. After her training I accompanied her to the dealer and asked why the switch was disabled... response given by dealer is noted above.
 
Ahhhh!! 5 pages of reading and I don't get to know who saftied the bike?!


My anticipation and hope has just equalized its pressure with the outside. :-(
 
Sounds like it was simply a blind cert done at X. Bike was likely never inspected.

Time to let it die.
 
Wow, even though Ted did not do this cert, he is taking a bullet for it.
Poor guy.
 
e90 said:
Thanks man! I can't believe what a difference it makes... it's like I bought a new bike....The problem was that I didn't know what the bike was SUPPOSED to feel like as this is my first bike ever... so I had no comparisons of right and wrong.... now that I know what's right, I'll never go back to wrong....
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At some point the bike must have been right during your ownership period, as it passed a safety inspection, and if the wheel/front end was as loose as you say, then the inspecting mechanic should lose his license. Chances are it came lose and you didn't notice it until the head shake. That's why so many people above mentioned regular maintenance/inspections.

One thing that wasn't mentioned in previous posts is the rear suspension set up/ride height. Take a moment and dial in the pre-load sag. There's an old saying: to fix the front, fix the rear. So, even though you are happy with the current set up, you may be happier yet once the rear is dialed in.
 
twinswin said:
At some point the bike must have been right during your ownership period, as it passed a safety inspection, and if the wheel/front end was as loose as you say, then the inspecting mechanic should lose his license. Chances are it came lose and you didn't notice it until the head shake. That's why so many people above mentioned regular maintenance/inspections.
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That's harsh. New head bearings could have been installed by noobish mechanic and immediately taken for safety check. Sometimes you think the races are set but, no, they pound in deeper with riding. That can cause a lot of slop eventually, something the certifying mechanic wouldn't see initially.
 
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