This was the story of two men in a lethal confrontation. One avenging the accidental death of his child, one having to defend his life. That one was a cop is secondary.
The girl didn't die.
This was the story of two men in a lethal confrontation. One avenging the accidental death of his child, one having to defend his life. That one was a cop is secondary.
Put yourself in that situation. Are you really going to be thinking as 2 guys are beating you up "hey maybe I wont die, I should just lay here and take it just incase I dont die..."
I think not, you are going to defend yourself to the best that you can. In this case, it was with a gun.
The father could have lived if he used his head first before swinging his fists. Mind over matter helps.
unfortunately the father is at fault
This TBH. Each human is only worth anout $2:00 in its basic material components anyway. No lifes is actualy more valuable. Its a situational thing.
Just keeping it real.It is beyond me why would the father jump to beat the cop's a** BEFORE attending to his injured child. And now he's dead.
Maybe it was too late and he purposely low sided the bike last second in an effort to avoid hitting her? Probably a knee jerk reaction.
I don't know, we did not see the situation from the riders point of view. Kids running into streets are similar to a deer coming out of nowhere, they just hit you on the side, not giving you time to react. I say that because I have seen children run out of nowhere and many times getting pulled back by the parents.
Is hard to say how it all went down.
just my opinion, not trying to start an argument for such a back turnout of events.
This is why I'm glad we're not all carrying guns around in this country.
I prefer to be able to defend myself with any means available if im getting the hell beaten out of me. Im sure we can agree that police officers in Ontario have shot and killed people for less than than in this example......but thats ok cause they are police, but civilians shouldnt be able too defend themselves?
Defend, yes... BUT in theory, we don't need guns to defend ourselves. Only people that SHOULD be carrying guns should be trained professionals. Too bad the world is messed up in so many different ways.
Prolly went like
*cop trying to save the little girl
*dad comes out
*cousin screams "HE KILLED HERRRRRRR"
*dad puts his gorilla face on and starts beating the cop
*cop goes 'stop this im a cop, i dont wanna hurt you'
*dad gets madder and cousin joins in
*cop starts losing consciousness so he shoots to get them away but shoots the dad
all I wonder is how do you "intentionally" ditch a bike?? Do you just let go giving up all control and jump off hoping it doesn't slide into the obstacle?? I've never tried this so have no idea...I think he just ****ed up couldn't control it and went down. Later they said he did it on purpose to avoid making the copper look like an unskilled dumbass rider.
If he was getting his *** beat so hard to the point of potential death I'm sure a fullface helmet and proper gear would have helped, which he likely didn't have either...of course he didn't forget to strap his pistol to his pants though...
I disagree with you on this oneI agree with you on this one.
4. Poor use of power by the cop. This situation did not warrant the use of a gun. Perhaps a shot in the air, or pulling it out wouldda sufficed. He's a COP; he should be able to withstand a beating for a few minutes... AND he was riding, so he shouldda had gear on? We weren't there, so no one can say how bad the beating was. TBH, if he has time to pull out the gun, it probably wasn't that bad of a beating.
Okay, I'll concede that the gear argument was weak, but still; there are a LOT of factors that led up to this unfortunate incident. Chalk it up to Darwin for both of these guy's stupidity.
So, the side of your bike worked better at stopping than your tires+brakes would have? I've never understood this.I've purposely low sided my bike when I was about to crash when I run wide and before I hit the guard rail. Bike stopped sliding before I hit guard rail.
Anyone else in the world who brought a gun to a fistfight and used it would still be charged with murder, for using excessive force.
I guess if you're a cop you can use lethal force if you want, but the rest of us are limitted to equal and neccessary force.
I disagree with you on this one
You just had an accident, you're injured and you get beaten up by a full grown adult and an 18 year old girl both consumed by the rage of seeing their loved one being killed "by you"?!
Fight or flight instinct will kick in and he fought back.
I dont think he WANTED to kill the dad... if the dad's all over him beating him up, he's trying to injure him to get him off but after an accident and being beat on the head for a while i think your focus to shoot isnt as sharp as our favorite James Bond or Crank movie.
To try to save the little girl, id also assume he removed his helmet for 1st aid...but whatever.
WE NEED A VIDEO OF THE INCIDENT
Defend, yes... BUT in theory, we should not need guns to defend ourselves.
Define "Trained Professional"? Does being Paid make you a trained professional? Almost everyone I know has guns (Most not hand guns) but all are trained and know how to shoot and use the guns and practice. Every town here has a rod and gun club, and many people I work with are on shooting teams and none of them are law enforcement.
Also what is Equal Force, He is one injured Cop who identified himself, being beaten by two people. The Gun at this point was the only thing he had to be able to stop what was happening.